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Matt Thomas and Lee Meyer with The Highlight Reel

April 16, 2024 by angishields

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Matt Thomas and Lee Meyer of The Highlight Reel are not just any video production company. They are a group of creative and passionate video producers who are dedicated to bringing your unique story to life through video.

Matt-Thomas-Fearless-FormulaMatt, the Creative Director and co-owner of The Highlight Reel, combined his passions for music, technology, and visual arts into a dynamic career.

With a background as diverse as his interests, Matt’s journey is a testament to his creative spirit and entrepreneurial heart.

 

Lee-Meyer-Fearless-FormulaLee, the Creative Strategist and co-owner of The Highlight Reel, brings a unique blend of creativity, business savvy, and a passion for people to her work.

Born and raised in the Midwest, Lee’s love for storytelling and design has been with her since childhood.

Follow The Highlight Reel on Facebook and Instagram.

Transcript-iconThis transcript is machine transcribed by Sonix

 

TRANSCRIPT

Intro: [00:00:07] Coming to you live from the Business RadioX Studio in Woodstock, Georgia. This is fearless formula with Sharon Cline.

Sharon Cline: [00:00:17] Welcome to Fearless Formula on Business RadioX, where we talk about the ups and downs of the business world and offer words of wisdom for business success. I am your host, Sharon Cline. And today in the studio I’ve got the Creative Director and the Creative Strategist, which I love these names, of The Highlight Reel and I’m so excited to talk to both of you. We’ve got Matt Thomas and Lee Meyer. Thank you for coming in.

Matt Thomas: [00:00:41] Thank you for having us.

Sharon Cline: [00:00:42] Sure.

Lee Meyer: [00:00:43] I’m so excited.

Sharon Cline: [00:00:44] I know. And you know what? I’ve seen so many good things that you’ve been doing in the community with the highlight reel, and it’s not even been in business that long. So I see such huge growth. Matt, why don’t you tell me a little bit about the history of getting started?

Matt Thomas: [00:00:57] Yeah. So that’s actually kind of funny. Um, excuse me, I was still working my full time IT job early 2022, and I can’t remember where I was, but I got a random call from Lee re, came out of a meeting and had this inspiration and she’s like, I’m not telling me or I’m not telling you that you have to start a business with me, but you got to start a business with me. We got to make some videos.

Sharon Cline: [00:01:22] Well, you had done a little bit of work with her previously, correct? Yes. I remember seeing you at one of the social events with a camera. So. Yeah, I.

Matt Thomas: [00:01:31] Was just I was just out just capturing photos and, you know, that was kind of like my go to disconnect.

Sharon Cline: [00:01:38] Yeah. Like, it’s like creative fun things like no.

Matt Thomas: [00:01:41] Stress all day working it. And it’s like I’m going to get out and take some photos and just have fun with it.

Sharon Cline: [00:01:46] So and so you all work together a little bit already.

Matt Thomas: [00:01:49] Yeah. Yeah.

Sharon Cline: [00:01:50] So I love that you, you had had your it’s sort of like your side project, your thing that you really enjoyed. You had your one thing that you were making, you know, your basic. Right. And then now look how it’s kind of grown and become something that you can do all the time.

Matt Thomas: [00:02:04] It’s pretty amazing to be able to take a passion and make it your full time gig.

Sharon Cline: [00:02:10] Leave. What was it that you saw in Matt that sort of made you have that moment of calling him?

Speaker4: [00:02:14] Well, Matt and I had we had developed a really good friendship first and foremost. Um, for people that don’t know us really well, we’re also in a relationship, a dating relationship now. But it really started purely as a friendship, and it was because I was around him for other business matters. Um, and when we were developing that friendship, he would talk about his passions and the things that he loved to do. And, um, that mainly revolved around photography and videography. And he would be so excited, you know, for the year before we started our business, he would show me things that he had been working on, and I was just blown away by it, especially because he wasn’t a quote unquote, you know, professional. He wasn’t selling it. He wasn’t trying. He didn’t even want to monetize it. Which was the funny thing. I thought that, yeah, you fought.

Sharon Cline: [00:03:07] You fought the monetizing.

Matt Thomas: [00:03:09] Yeah, I fought it really hard.

Sharon Cline: [00:03:10] Why did you fight it, do you think?

Matt Thomas: [00:03:11] Well, um, so I have a past with audio engineering as well. Um, and. In the process of building up a recording studio and bringing in clients and working with music all day long. For some reason, it just it ruined it for me. Like I couldn’t listen to music the same. I didn’t see music the same anymore, and I was just afraid that that was going to happen to something else. So photography and videography for me, I was just holding on to so tightly like, no, you’re not going to, we’re not going to take this away from me.

Sharon Cline: [00:03:44] I’ve heard people say that if they have something as their hobby, you know, when they make it their full time thing, it’s not as enjoyable somehow or the pressure of it, it just feels different. So I can get I get why if you really loved it, you wouldn’t want to surrender that feeling for money, you know? Yeah, and.

Matt Thomas: [00:04:02] The process has not ruined video for me at all. I love it even more. It’s just something you just continue to grow at and, you know, learn from. And it’s just been amazing.

Speaker4: [00:04:12] That was my hope. And I didn’t want to ever push him or or push a boundary, because I don’t believe in pushing people to to do things that they really don’t want to do. But for me, knowing him so deeply and having such a deep relationship, I felt like that was based out of fear from what had happened previously. And I really wanted him to try to be open minded and and think just because this happened before doesn’t mean it has to happen again. I think as creatives, it’s really, really important to let yourself stay in that space. Um, yes, we run a business and our clients have needs and that is a huge priority. But there’s I believe there’s always a way to find some sort of balance, um, to where you can really have both and you can enjoy it and have it as a business as well.

Sharon Cline: [00:05:04] What were you doing, Lee, previous to this as well?

Speaker4: [00:05:07] So I was running. I have another small business myself as well. It’s called go getter personal assistant services and um, it has obviously majorly taken a back seat. I do still run it on a very low level when I have some downtime with the highlight reel, because I just personally love helping people. Um, so I had been hired, um, to come into an office and do a design project, and that happens to be the office that Matt was working at. So before that, I did not know him, I did not know who he was, and I had to spend a few months in this office because we were doing, you know, painting and furniture and all of the things that go along with design. And Matt got stuck with me, and we always tell this story. It’s funny, when he met me, he didn’t actually even like me.

Lee Meyer: [00:05:58] What?

Sharon Cline: [00:05:59] How is that possible?

Matt Thomas: [00:06:00] I don’t know, I was yeah, I was just stuck in a computer screen and, you know, working all day.

Sharon Cline: [00:06:06] That’s a different energy.

Matt Thomas: [00:06:07] She comes in all bubbly and happy and I’m just like, loud, get out of my office.

Speaker4: [00:06:12] And now he’s stuck with me forever.

Matt Thomas: [00:06:16] I love it.

Sharon Cline: [00:06:18] So when you approached him about starting this company, did you have a vision of how you thought it would be Lee.

Speaker4: [00:06:23] I did, um, very loosely in the beginning. Um, very, very loosely. In fact, I didn’t even really know how I would be able to truly contribute, because everybody knows that Matt is the talent that you see on the screen, and I’m the business side of that. Um, but when I just didn’t know what that was going to look like or how I could really be valuable in a way to match his value. So that was a really big concern when we started. And luckily it’s just blossomed. And we we both know our roles now and we do have equal contributions. And it’s it’s been it’s been an amazing journey.

Sharon Cline: [00:07:05] What a leap of faith. Yeah. When you think about it, so many people talk about their dreams and you know, someday all this or that, but you actually did it, you know, you really did.

Speaker4: [00:07:16] It’s one of those things you look at and it’s honestly doesn’t feel real sometimes because you I think anybody that starts an entrepreneurial journey or any journey of growth or, or things where you want to develop your skill set, even if you’re in a corporate job or whatever it is, it it does feel terrifying. And you hear those stories of people that took the jump and they made it. And and you think to yourself, well, how do people actually do that? And going through that ourselves, to be honest, we look back and and we can tell the story and we we know truly we’ve made it because we’ve had a lot of support from our community and and people backing us up and all of these things. We wouldn’t be here without those folks. Well, you know, 100%. It’s just we look back and we’re like, how did we even go through this journey? How did we get here? It feels like a huge blessing.

Sharon Cline: [00:08:08] Well, a lot of people, the financial part of it so scary, right. And that stops so many people. Right. It’s the bottom line of everything. What was it about sort of that exact perfect alchemy of moments that made you not afraid? Like, what was it?

Lee Meyer: [00:08:24] We weren’t. Not afraid. You were afraid. You were.

Speaker4: [00:08:27] Terrified. Um. Terrifying. Terrifying. And to be honest, I feel like this isn’t something that’s talked about publicly and widely enough. You hear? Well, you got to take a risk and you got to give it your all. But you don’t necessarily know what that looks like in your life. And for me, I’ve decided that I want to be really vulnerable and authentic with this journey because I think it’s really important we can sit here all day and be like, business is great, community is great, like and it is. But there’s obviously a lot that goes into that. And um, prior to starting my second business with Matt, the highlight reel, you know, I was in a good financial spot and I did have savings and I did have all of those things going. But when you have to take time away to build up, you know, sales or build up your branding and all of those things, it doesn’t just happen instantaneously. And so we have taken financial hits, both of us, and we are in debt. And that’s because we have had to keep the faith and say, you know what? Right now we we are in this place, but it doesn’t feel like a bad place. It feels hopeful because we know that we are putting our all in and we are giving it our all. We’ve drained everything that we have to invest, everything that we have to create what it’s become, and we feel really hopeful where it’s at.

Sharon Cline: [00:09:58] So, Matt, it’s not about being afraid as much as it is about being afraid, but still moving forward because you trust in the product. You trust in what you’re doing.

Matt Thomas: [00:10:07] Right? Right. Um.

Speaker5: [00:10:11] Sorry. Blank.

Sharon Cline: [00:10:12] No that’s okay. It’s the. But that’s part of it is to me. I let fear make a lot of decisions for me. Like all day long. Yeah. And so but the moments that I decide to do something that I’m, you know, a trepidatious, trepidatious about where I will actually throw caution to the wind and say, well, I’m just going to go and we’ll see what happens. You know, there’s there’s always been a bit of a pride at the end of it. Like, look, I did something I was afraid of, but I’ve never had like a positive feeling when I’ve ever let fear make a decision for me. I’ve always just been like, yeah, that was yeah, well, maybe another opportunity will come. You know, like, I just try to tell myself it’ll be okay. But that’s different than what you all did 100%.

Speaker4: [00:10:50] Yeah. That fear, um, I, I guess, have let fear control a lot of my life. And I think that before starting my business, I spent years getting inspired by people, um, you know, their stories and following their companies. And just because I wanted to be that person that could make a jump and that could be brave and all of these things that I saw all these people doing and I just, I, I guess just submersing yourself in people that are doing that constantly and also not being irrational about it either. I think that there’s a difference. You mentioned feeling secure in the product, and it’s not just about the product necessarily. Obviously, I think that we do deliver a good product because that is really important. People don’t want a video that makes them look in a bad light or their company or their product quality, and that’s all so, so important. Um. And I just had a blank.

Lee Meyer: [00:11:58] But it’s not.

Sharon Cline: [00:11:59] Just so much about the product. There’s other sides to it too.

Lee Meyer: [00:12:02] Right.

Speaker4: [00:12:03] And the passion and we know kind of our hearts and we know the connection. It’s deeper than a video. We know the connections we have with the people when we’re working with them. And we’ve seen the impact that the video does for people. And we kind of have a motto that’s a core value in our company and that’s use video for good. And we really believe that video has a strong purpose in helping people. And that’s kind of where our heart is. It’s not about the money, it’s not about the product. It’s about what it’s doing for people, for their lives, for their business, whatever, for their mission.

Sharon Cline: [00:12:40] I love that it’s similar to the way I look at voiceover, because it’s not just me saying here by this solo cup, it’s what will this solo cup do for your life? You would posted something on Facebook because I did a little cyberstalking you. You posted something on Facebook about how important it is to highlight what your videos make people feel. And I love that because that’s ultimately what we’re talking about is the emotion behind the product, which is, you know, when I’m trying to sell something, I want someone to feel like, oh my gosh, this is going to really help me. I’m going to have peace because of this, where I imagine you all think, look at what somebody is doing and how they’re helping the community or look at look at this company. Um, it’s not just what they’re doing, but it’s why they’re doing what they’re doing. So you get to do similar things that I do. You’re using communication just a little different medium to get people to see the truth about who people are 100%. But I also think that when you’re in that vein, when you know that you are doing something like with that energy behind it, it’s got integrity, you believe it 100%. It lands where it’s supposed to land. Things work out the way they’re supposed to because you know, you’re doing your true north, I guess.

Lee Meyer: [00:13:50] Absolutely.

Speaker4: [00:13:51] And, um, I also am a very big, faith based person, and I don’t believe that Jesus is going to make my business successful or give me all of these things. But I do have faith, and that carries you a long way. Faith goes a long way. And and feedback from people that we we’ve gotten enough of the vibes to know that we need to stay committed and keep going. And if there’s problems along the way, we’re learning, you know, as this goes on to, to be better and to communicate better as partners and to be able to support each other. You know, maybe we both have different fears about different things. So it’s just really important to have people in your corner. And it’s not just Matt. We have a whole community and friends in our corner as well. You got to keep that present and if you’re doing the right thing and you’re not being negligent, keep pushing past the fear.

Sharon Cline: [00:14:49] A lot of companies that I’ve had in here have talked about how important it is to surround you with yourself, with the right people, and also how important it is to work on your strengths. So, Matt, what would you say your strengths are? And then, Lee, what would you say yours are? Because the both of you makes kind of the perfect team, right? The dream team strengths wise?

Matt Thomas: [00:15:10] Um, I would say. Man, it’s really hard to talk about myself.

Lee Meyer: [00:15:17] He does not like.

Matt Thomas: [00:15:19] We’re.

Lee Meyer: [00:15:19] Working on that.

Matt Thomas: [00:15:20] So working on that one. Um, strength wise, I don’t really know. I mean, I know that.

Speaker4: [00:15:26] Maybe I could tell your strengths.

Lee Meyer: [00:15:28] Oh, that’s.

Speaker4: [00:15:28] You could tell mine.

Matt Thomas: [00:15:29] There we go. We’ll do.

Lee Meyer: [00:15:30] That. Okay. So Matt’s.

Speaker4: [00:15:33] You know, he’s just, um, like, our powerhouse and our backbone. Um, obviously anything creatively that gets done, he’s just got a really good eye. And when we started this, I didn’t just want anybody that had a camera. I wanted somebody that would deliver people things that were very beautiful and very meaningful and really evoke emotion. I think that’s really important. He just has that natural eye and he’s just a really honest, solid person. You know, people don’t realize that when you’re doing work with video, we’re in the weeds with a lot of of delicate information. And when you’re hiring somebody and you’re partnering with somebody, it’s really important to have somebody that you can trust and that has a lot of integrity and not, you know, just is that through and through? Um, not to mention his extremely strong, you know, 15 year background in it. He is our guru for, you know, our back end, all of our setup, all of the technology. Um, you know, he has led a very diverse life. So it it leads to him having a lot of talents. Um, he mentioned that he opened a recording studio many years ago. So he’s got a lot of audio engineering capabilities that really go a long way for our clients and help be able to deliver them extra value, because we don’t have to hire an extra audio person. Matt honestly gives away a lot of those talents for free because we do love being able to add extra. Um, I could honestly go on and on, but he’s our tech. He’s our our strong one. He’s I tell him this like he’s the calm. I’m the I feel like every partnership kind of usually has a crazy one and the voice of reason. And he’s our voice of reason.

Lee Meyer: [00:17:25] Ah.

Sharon Cline: [00:17:26] What do you think about Lee?

Matt Thomas: [00:17:27] So Lee is our crazy one. Yeah. She’s the the perfect complement in business that I could ever ask for. Like. Everything that I can’t do like that well, or I’m not confident in. She has that confidence. You know, when it comes to business sense. Like, you know, I came from the perspective of, you know, working for people. Now, I did open a studio and I had no idea what I was doing when it came to business. Um, so on the business side, she definitely comes in, you know, with that knowledge. Um, the, um, just she’s very, very detail oriented, um, helps keep me in line a lot. Uh, not in a bad way, but, you know, you know, very, you know, processes and procedures and things like that, that just keep things running as smooth as possible. She can literally talk to anybody. And I think that’s amazing because I struggle with that so much. Um. She’s just has such a big heart for everything that we do. And like, you know, again, going back to the emotion part of it, like the emotion comes from both of us. Like, yes, I’ll be working on the video, but the final result is both of us putting our hearts and souls into whatever project we’re working on to get that message across.

Sharon Cline: [00:18:50] This is so sweet. Just stay.

Lee Meyer: [00:18:53] Stay in here. Got me a little misty.

Matt Thomas: [00:18:55] So, did you get a little misty eyed?

Sharon Cline: [00:18:56] I got a little misty eyed, too.

Lee Meyer: [00:18:58] It’s so sweet.

Speaker4: [00:18:58] We’re not making you throw up.

Lee Meyer: [00:18:59] That’s fine. Quite the opposite.

Sharon Cline: [00:19:02] I actually think that it’s. What you’re talking about is ultimately at the end is storytelling, and that you each bring a strength to storytelling. And I think that it does seem so important to be able to have someone who’s really great at the communication side with the outside world, and then someone who can kind of shut everything down and really focus on what needs to be done. So it seems like that’s the perfect little setup for what it really is.

Matt Thomas: [00:19:29] It’s worked really, really well.

Sharon Cline: [00:19:30] You know, are there things that you now that you’ve gotten further into the company, things that you wish you had known before you got started? Are there sort of like hard lessons that you learned?

Speaker4: [00:19:42] Oh, yeah. I mean.

Lee Meyer: [00:19:43] How much time.

Speaker4: [00:19:44] Do we have?

Lee Meyer: [00:19:46] Hard lesson. I mean.

Sharon Cline: [00:19:48] What would you wish you had known beforehand? I mean, one of the things that I do talk about to just to give you an example of what I’m asking about, is just the struggle of of being business owners, but then putting limits about how much you put into the business with your time.

Lee Meyer: [00:20:03] Oh, yeah.

Speaker4: [00:20:04] I think anybody that you talk to, anybody that’s ever been in this realm at all, they know that being in business super difficult just in that on its own. Then you add a partner. We knew what we were. We didn’t know what we were getting into, but we knew that we were going to be embarking on a really difficult journey. Um, just because it is, you know, when you have a, yeah, you have another person that you’re you’re doing so much big stuff with. There’s a lot to communicate about. And I think that’s probably one of the biggest lessons we’ve learned. Everybody anybody you talk to will say communication is king. Um, but you don’t really know what that means until you learn how to effectively do it. So I would say for us, the biggest lesson we’ve learned is even when you think you’re communicating well, you’re not. Yeah.

Lee Meyer: [00:20:59] No way. You’re not. Um.

Speaker4: [00:21:01] And we’ve we’ve grown and we’ve gotten a lot better. I will say, um, this is another thing I firmly believe in. Matt and I both really prioritize self care, and we are both in therapy separately so that we continue to work on our best selves and learn how to work on communication. There’s nothing wrong. It’s just constantly putting in that effort because we don’t want, you know, when we’re off and we’ve been off. You know, anybody that’s in a relationship or in business has those moments. Um, we come out stronger because we look for the problems to create opportunities to grow from.

Sharon Cline: [00:21:42] So you have a proper perspective on what the problems are. It’s not like you did this or you did this, but you’re actually looking at the problem to solve together.

Speaker4: [00:21:50] Sometimes when the.

Lee Meyer: [00:21:51] Argument first starts, you know, the day one, it might be a little bit like that, but.

Speaker4: [00:21:57] We do. That’s one thing I, you know, I love about my partner is that we have that respect and we can come there. And that’s really important for anybody, um, to, to try to just really see that other person and communicate well solves a lot of problems.

Sharon Cline: [00:22:11] So that’s huge communication. And that’s in you’re in that industry, right. But you also have a relationship on top of that. So I can see how it can get kind of I don’t know complicated.

Lee Meyer: [00:22:22] Yeah. It can get hairy.

Matt Thomas: [00:22:23] Yeah. Just assuming that somebody knows this or that, you know, I have a bad habit of talking in my head a lot. And so I’ve already had the conversation in my head. I’m thinking, oh, everything’s good. No, I haven’t actually said it yet.

Lee Meyer: [00:22:35] You didn’t tell me that.

Matt Thomas: [00:22:37] So just trying to remember to just communicate. Communicate and then communicate again.

Sharon Cline: [00:22:42] Gotcha.

Matt Thomas: [00:22:43] That just helps.

Sharon Cline: [00:22:45] Do you have to put limits on the amount of time that you invest in, in the company? Like, you know, it’s 5:00 on a Friday. Do you kind of shut things down, or do you always feel like you have to be putting effort into growing the business?

Matt Thomas: [00:22:57] I think there’s the the that constant drive of, you know, we have to keep going. We have to, you know, a lot of work to do. So we could just keep going all the time. But we do regularly communicate. Hey. You want to, like, take some time for us this afternoon and then maybe pick back up a little bit tonight or, you know, we’ll change the schedule around to make it work for us.

Sharon Cline: [00:23:20] That’s wonderful that you can.

Speaker4: [00:23:21] And it’s still a balance. You know, we’re doing these things, but we’re constantly not constantly, consistently. We have to keep ourselves in check. And um, when I talked about that years of research of just trying to be inspired by people, that was another thing I saw was I noticed that there’s this huge problem with burnout and just severe stress and anxiety and, um, not managing your life to, to where you just don’t have a life anymore. Your life is your business. Your identity is your business. Your kids have grown up and all they saw was you running your business. And I very strongly I started my business so that I could have a life that I wanted for my children. So keeping that in the forefront of our minds, it’s important and we try to do that again. It’s not perfect. You’re always going to have to keep yourself in check, and it’s just that constant check in. What am I doing? How have I structured my day, my week, my time? It’s very tempting to work all the time, but you can’t.

Sharon Cline: [00:24:28] How do you advertise? Do you advertise?

Lee Meyer: [00:24:32] No, we don’t advertise.

Speaker4: [00:24:34] We are making a commitment this year. Our third year in business, to finally pull. Our problem is, since we’ve started, we’ve just been okay, let’s work, work, work. And we just we work a lot and we don’t prioritize that back end enough. And I think we’re finally catching our breath this year. And we’re telling ourselves, hey, let’s get serious. We have social media and we have a website, and you have.

Sharon Cline: [00:25:04] Products that you can refer to, like people can see what you’ve.

Lee Meyer: [00:25:07] Done.

Speaker4: [00:25:07] Yeah, absolutely. It’s it’s all out there. But a, a true a true strategic marketing advertising. We have not yet and we’re, it’s on the list.

Sharon Cline: [00:25:17] But what I love is that so far you really haven’t had to because word of mouth is, is sometimes more powerful than anything.

Speaker4: [00:25:23] It is. And we feel really blessed. I mean, we talk about our community all the time. We literally love our community, and we try to be as supportive and involved as we can because we know that we were given that, and we have had so many people from the community and businesses and just I’ve never seen anything like where we live.

Sharon Cline: [00:25:46] I haven’t special, it is special. A lot of people say that that, you know, you go a little bit farther south, Marietta or whatever, and there’s just a totally different feel to what this community is, is like. And it’s um, it’s something that like, makes you want to protect it a little bit.

Speaker4: [00:26:01] It’s a little piece.

Lee Meyer: [00:26:02] Of.

Speaker4: [00:26:03] A little.

Lee Meyer: [00:26:03] Bubble, a little bubble, a little.

Speaker4: [00:26:05] Special bubble.

Sharon Cline: [00:26:06] So I saw that you also on your website, you have different markets that you work with. It’s not just Atlanta, but they’re like different cities all over. So how did you get involved with different cities really?

Speaker4: [00:26:19] That’s just from people finding our products online. Or honestly, you talk about word of mouth that even goes across the US. We’ve just been really fortunate enough to have some really solid relationships with people that have referred us, and we love traveling.

Lee Meyer: [00:26:37] I was going to say.

Sharon Cline: [00:26:38] How does that feel? Like Miami? Let’s go. Yeah, I don’t know.

Lee Meyer: [00:26:41] No, we love it, love it.

Matt Thomas: [00:26:42] It’s exciting is what we want to do.

Lee Meyer: [00:26:45] Yes.

Speaker4: [00:26:46] Our plan, you know, now that we’re entering our third year because we want everything, we love our community and we want to travel. So strategically, we’re trying to base our time so that we’re about 50% in our, you know, here local and then 50% travel. And that works well because, you know, my kids will be with their dad. And it just gives us a lot of freedom to get to do all these wonderful things.

Sharon Cline: [00:27:11] You get paid to travel, right? Yes. That’s the best.

Lee Meyer: [00:27:14] It’s kind of the best of the dream. Yeah. For sure.

Sharon Cline: [00:27:17] Who is your ideal client?

Lee Meyer: [00:27:20] So you take that one, okay.

Speaker4: [00:27:23] So honestly, that is really tough to answer. But in a basic sense, it’s anybody who has something that they want to share with people and they want it to to be done in a way that makes them feel true and authentic to who they are and their mission and their product. Um, authenticity, I feel like is a buzzword for this year, and everybody is saying that, and I know that’s a thing, but that’s because it’s true. And people are really tired of the fake advertising and the commercials and the sales, and people are really invested in who businesses are and what they stand for and what their heart is. And for us, anybody that wants to show anything with authenticity, with with true heart, that really wants to be reflected in a great way. I mean, we work with small business owners a lot. We work with cities, we work with local governments, we work with corporations, we work with non-profits. That’s a huge part of our company. And our heart is again, that use video for good. Do you have, um, an event this year that you’re trying to raise a lot of money? Because maybe it’s cancer research, maybe it’s organ transplantation, maybe it, you know, it’s it’s big things. It’s saving people’s lives. Sometimes it’s a product that’s going to make your life easier. It’s in any facet, even personal. We work with a lot of folks that just want to tell personal stories, because maybe they want their family legacy captured, and they want their great grandchildren and their great great grandchildren to know who they are. There’s so many ways.

Sharon Cline: [00:29:04] My goodness, I never thought about that boy. I’d be so emotional in those, you know, because it does feel like what you’re doing is leaving a legacy, but not just for that family, but for the different companies that you’re representing or the different non-profits. You are making a piece of media that will live eternally.

Lee Meyer: [00:29:22] Absolutely.

Sharon Cline: [00:29:23] The internet’s forever.

Speaker4: [00:29:24] And a lot of times what we have found is that we have a big heart for small business owners. And we we know ourselves, too. You don’t always see yourself the way that other people see you, and for us, it’s a huge gift to get to deliver a video to somebody and just make them feel really good about all the heart and soul and passion and financial, you know, all of these things that they’ve poured in. I had a I’ll make this really quick. I had a business owner in the community that I had been trying to work with for months, and I was stopping by her office and visiting her, which I normally I don’t do that, but I thought her story was so cool. And I told her, I said, I’m not here to try to sell you. Obviously I would be selling you a video.

Lee Meyer: [00:30:13] But but I really.

Speaker4: [00:30:16] Want to work with you because I love your story. And I don’t know if it was a question of like, why? It was, why do you love my story? Like, what is it about my story that makes you want to work with me? And I went off on a tangent for like 20 minutes, telling her all the things that I see in her and all the things that she’s done and all the the roadblocks she’s overcome and just the legacy that she really has truly created. And after I got done with my story, she just kind of looked at me wide eyed and she was like, I’ve never thought about myself like that. I, I’ve never seen myself like that. And I’m like, well, it’s very obvious to me and I just think it’s so beautiful. So it’s, you just really want to help people see themselves the way that you see them, too.

Sharon Cline: [00:31:05] That’s a gift. And, you know, to give someone that validation and to highlight things that when you’re in the weeds of everything, your every day routine, those moments or whatever it is that you see, they’re just part of your story. But it’s not that important. I got to do this. I got to do that all day long. But for someone to take a step back and see it from such a beautiful point of view of growth and positivity, that must have been like an emotional moment, too.

Speaker4: [00:31:33] It was. And that’s the moments we live for. We. We strive for true connectedness with our clients. Um, we we want to empower them. We want to help them feel just ready to represent themselves in the world digitally in the best way. And we are truly not happy if our clients aren’t happy and we stand by that.

Sharon Cline: [00:31:58] Are what good energy in the world you know, there’s a lot of negative there. There just is. And so it’s wonderful to see. Can I ask you briefly before we finish, what was the 2024 Cherokee Film Summit that you were associated with?

Matt Thomas: [00:32:14] Is it? That’s a just a giant group of area creatives coming together. They had panelists and different classes that were being taught on various different subjects. It’s just a really amazing gathering of all of these professionals in the movie industry and other, you know, videography companies, you know, production companies, things like that. Um, the one of the coolest parts about it for me was in the morning, they have a students section, like this whole session of, you know, a bunch of different schools coming together, and you just get to see these kids just absorbing this information like, oh my gosh, like, I want to do this and they get to play with the props or, you know, get to ask questions, play with, you know, equipment. Um, so yeah, that was, that was probably. It’s one of the coolest things to be involved in, for sure.

Sharon Cline: [00:33:09] It’s like you’re helping the future, you know, to do similar things to you. Like, wouldn’t it have been nice if someone had kind of come to you and said, here’s a way that you can get involved? A lot of times we’re just figuring it out ourselves, you know?

Speaker4: [00:33:21] Absolutely. And I know I had those moments as a kid. I have had adults pour into me, and I think it’s that full circle moment that also makes our business so special, is finding any ways that we can to get to be involved, you know, and in that experience. And the Film Summit is actually put on and run by the Cherokee County Office of Economic Development. And Molly Mercer and her team run that, and they just do a phenomenal job. Um, I don’t think a lot of people know about that organization in our community and all of the wonderful things they do for us and for small business owners. But, um, they bring a lot of revenue into our community, which is really good for everybody. Um, you know, you wouldn’t think that we would have major motion.

Lee Meyer: [00:34:10] Films right here, right here in Cherokee County.

Sharon Cline: [00:34:13] Yeah, yeah, I definitely don’t think that that’s highlighted so much. Many people think just Atlanta, but we’ve got, um, a talent agencies here. I was thinking about how the fact that you are on this panel, like you’ve only been in business a couple of years, look at how much you’ve been able to affect not just our community proper, but like the next generation of people that will come up.

Speaker4: [00:34:35] Just to clarify, we’re not on the panel.

Lee Meyer: [00:34:37] Giving expert advice.

Speaker4: [00:34:38] We’re filming it. We sponsor with with The Office because they’ve poured into us and we love what they do and we want to give back as well. And they’re just phenomenal. But we are there to create a story of what’s happened for the day. We do enjoy the panelists, though, and what they have to offer, and it’s it’s just really cool. Even though we’re not making movies. Um, it’s just really neat to connect with people in that area. And it’s just another way that Cherokee County stands out, um, just as an amazing place. And if anybody is listening to this and is intrigued by that, I highly encourage them to reach out to the coed office. That’s their acronym. Um, they help with even film scouting and just jobs for local. I mean, there’s just so many wonderful things they do.

Sharon Cline: [00:35:25] But how neat is it to see young students to or young people be so excited about something that you know so much about, you know, and that they genuinely have. And it’s not because of money, but it’s genuinely what they want to be involved in. You know, it’s like, um, I meet a lot of people who want to get involved in voiceovers all the time. I kind of sit down and explain kind of the basics of what I’ve done in the industry. It’s a very small amount, but you know, when you don’t know anything, it’s great to just have someone explain. So when you are talking to someone who really just wants to be like, loves the idea of voiceover and you’re just like, oh, I feed off that energy too. You know, it makes me excited for what I do. And then it’s almost like I get in my own weeds of, oh, I’ve got to do this. I got to edit that. Oh, you know, I sound horrible because of the allergies lately. Like, I just plain, you know. But the truth is it is a it is a change, a reframing of appreciation, you know? So and I love the idea of the fact that you are not just making you’re not just part of it in that you’re filming, but you’re giving students real time opportunity, real in that moment, to see what it’s like to actually use the equipment. It’s not just theory.

Lee Meyer: [00:36:34] Yeah.

Speaker4: [00:36:34] And we got to interview some of the students and that was that was probably some of my favorite parts of the day. Because you see the passion in their eyes and you see how excited they are. And just to have those opportunities, it’s really meaningful. And Matt and I talked about it after, uh, our day was done filming that day and I said, you know, we should really look into finding a way that we could help mentor some of these younger kids and possibly even pay them to intern. And so smart, you know, really be able to help them develop their skills and feel happy and excited about getting any way that we can help. We’re just now that we’ve got a little bit of feet under us. You know, we’re thinking about how can we do that and how can we expand that, because it is so cool. You want to help these kids? Yeah.

Sharon Cline: [00:37:23] It’s giving back to directly to the community, which is wonderful. Yeah. Where do you see yourself in five years?

Matt Thomas: [00:37:30] Oh, man.

Lee Meyer: [00:37:31] We we ten years.

Sharon Cline: [00:37:34] Whatever. Whatever timeline you’d like. Where do you.

Lee Meyer: [00:37:36] See?

Speaker4: [00:37:36] What’s funny about us is we just. We are in a little bit of a transition right now. We thought we had an idea for what we wanted to do. And it it’s still very much, you know, our core values of creating video for people, you know, doing good work, creating great relationships, all of that basis. But we had thought that we were going to open a physical studio and as a five year plan, and we’re actually kind of thinking that we may not do that now. So that’s going to be a TBD. And normally I can answer this, but you literally caught us in the middle of a, a transitionary.

Lee Meyer: [00:38:15] Period.

Sharon Cline: [00:38:16] It’s what that’s it’s kind of unfolding the way it’s supposed to then, because you don’t need a physical brick and mortar store technically or studio, because so much can be done at home these days too, right? Yeah.

Speaker4: [00:38:29] And we love going to people, and we love seeing their space and traveling and and getting to connect with people all over. So it’s.

Sharon Cline: [00:38:38] It’s all unfolding. It’s like the journey.

Lee Meyer: [00:38:40] It’s still the.

Speaker4: [00:38:41] Journey we’re on. The journey.

Lee Meyer: [00:38:43] Continues.

Matt Thomas: [00:38:44] Yes.

Sharon Cline: [00:38:44] Well, how can people get in touch with you if they would like to hear more about you or or use your services so.

Speaker4: [00:38:50] They can find us on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, we are the highlight reel ATL. You can also go to the Highlight Reel ATL comm. We always offer anybody that’s interested, even in chatting. Um, maybe you’re not ready to make the jump, but you just want to see, hey, what would this look like? And what do you think about my business or my product or my event? And what could you creatively, you know, spitball with me? I love spit balling. So give us a call like we’re happy to just chat. And we are bad business people because we will always find a way.

Lee Meyer: [00:39:23] To tell people.

Speaker4: [00:39:24] How they can do things themselves as much as possible as well. So we’re here to help.

Sharon Cline: [00:39:30] Sorry we’re bad business people. We are not. That’s not the tagline we want to leave you with.

Speaker4: [00:39:37] But I’m like, hey, you may not. Sometimes people don’t always need a super high end professional video. It’s not necessary and that’s a waste of their resources. So I’m never going to convince somebody to do video. You know, on this scale if it doesn’t make sense. So that’s why I joke and I’m like, we’re bad.

Lee Meyer: [00:39:56] But.

Speaker4: [00:39:57] It’s what’s best.

Sharon Cline: [00:39:58] So no, it’s honest and it’s and it’s looking out for what ultimately the, you know, is best for what the client needs. It’s not about what you need, but it’s about what the client needs. And that’s like having that reframe of what’s most important is making the client happy. Ultimately, you know, releases all of that kind of negative karma that comes when people are just like money driven all the time. I don’t know, I seem to find that a lot of people that have that energy of being truly in an almost an altruistic mindset, things just work out. Things are that that’s a beautiful energy to be in. Yeah. You know, and you can feel it. You can feel it too. So I feel it in here. Yay!

Lee Meyer: [00:40:37] She tells you people, it’s real, it’s real real.

Sharon Cline: [00:40:41] It’s real for the highlight reel. Um, well, I can’t thank you enough, Lee and Matt, for coming into the studio today and sharing your story. Um, and please come back again, because it’s just so fun to see how your journey is evolving. And it’s it’s inspiring for me to know that even if there are obviously fears, you still you manage them. And that’s the biggest thing to me is as a business owner, I mean, even you guys are talking about sort of at the end of the pandemic, starting this, you know, or sort of in the middle of the pandemic, you still did it. You know, so many businesses didn’t survive. And yours, you know, got started and is thriving. So yay.

Lee Meyer: [00:41:18] Well, I appreciate it.

Sharon Cline: [00:41:19] I do a golf clap for you, some golf clapping for you here in the studio. So exciting.

Lee Meyer: [00:41:23] Thank you so much.

Sharon Cline: [00:41:24] You’re welcome. And thank you all for listening to Fearless Formula on Business RadioX. And again, this is Sharon Cline reminding you that with knowledge and understanding, we can all have our own fearless formula. Have a great day!

 

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BRX Pro Tip: Differentiation: Not What, But How

April 16, 2024 by angishields

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Stone Payton: [00:00:00] And we are back with BRX Pro Tips. Lee Kantor and Stone Payton here with you. Lee, when it comes to this business of trying to differentiate ourselves, the key is not so much what. It’s really more about the how, isn’t it?

Lee Kantor: [00:00:13] Right. And that’s an important distinction. A lot of people get so caught up with what they do, and they love to explain the minutia of what they do and what, you know, kind of the benefits, and all the features, and all that stuff. And the buyer doesn’t really care because, usually, the buyer is committed to buying something. So, now, what they’re going to really vet you on is how you do what you do. How are you going to deliver that service? How is that unique to you? And how is it different than everybody else?

Lee Kantor: [00:00:47] And that’s where I would recommend, especially solopreneurs or folks that have small firms, you have to lean into the how you do what you do and you have to keep making it better and better. And by doing that and by putting your own personality and special sauce on it, it’s going to be different than everybody else’s. And then, therefore, you’re going to stand down.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:06] And don’t be afraid to kind of be yourself, because there’s only one of you. And when you’re yourself, then you’re not competing with anybody else because there’s only one of you. So, the more you can kind of make it about how you do what you do and the special way that you’ve kind of combined all your talents and all your services and all your skills, then you become indispensable and you’ve eliminated your competition.

Haden Keen with Circle Of Friends

April 15, 2024 by angishields

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Haden Keen is a team member with Haden-Keen-bwCircle of Friends coffee shop. Circle of Friends provides supportive employment for adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

Our goal is to foster appropriate and supportive employment opportunities so that they may gain valuable skills and earn a fair wage through mentoring relationships.

Proceeds support Circle of Friends endeavors, including an affordable, inclusive living community!

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Intro: [00:00:07] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Woodstock, Georgia. It’s time for Cherokee Business Radio. Now, here’s your host.

Stone Payton: [00:00:24] Welcome to another exciting and informative edition of Cherokee Business Radio. Stone Payton here with you this afternoon, and today’s episode is brought to you in part by our Community Partner program, the Business RadioX Main Street Warriors Defending Capitalism, promoting small business and supporting our local community. For more information, go to Main Street warriors.org and a special note of thanks to our title sponsor for the Cherokee chapter of Main Street Warriors, Diesel David, Inc. Please go check them out at diesel. david.com. You guys are in for a real treat this afternoon. Please join me in welcoming to the broadcast Mr. Haden Keen. How are you man?

Haden Keen: [00:01:11] I am good. How are you Stone?

Stone Payton: [00:01:13] I am doing well. I’ve really been looking forward to this conversation. I got a ton of questions. I know we’re not going to get to them all, but I think a good place to start might be what you shared with me when we were visiting over at the circuit the other day. This is Autism Month or something. Yeah, talk about that.

Haden Keen: [00:01:32] Yeah, it is Autism Awareness Month. Uh, for me, uh, I have, uh, high functioning autism. Uh, I’m not gonna lie, I’m a bit nervous right now. So, uh, autism is flying, like, uh, a good example of how I’m feeling right now is like Tom Cruise behind an F-14 Tomcat for the first time. Just be like, oh my gosh. Like, yeah. So, uh, yeah, it’s Autism Awareness Month. Uh, I’ve been I’m 31 years old. Uh, I’ve been dealing with high functioning autism all my life. Uh, I’ve got my mother in the studio with me. Uh, and, uh, boy, I was not an easy child. Let’s just say that, um, my mom, she basically told me she’s just like. I mean, people with autism. Um. My mom basically told me she’s just like, you’re just different from the rest. Like I always had to. I wasn’t really good at math. Um. Took me eight times to pass the math graduation test, just that portion of it, right, to get my diploma. And it was. I’ve always, um, in high school, um, I always had to have what’s called a parapro with me taking me from class to class to class. Um, and I got picked on for that, you know, I got to ride, um, in the high school realm, they call it the, uh, the sped bus or the special bus, whatever they call it now, I don’t know. Mhm. Um, but.

Stone Payton: [00:03:09] You knew or recognized that there was something different about your life and the way things worked for you than, than the other kids. You might not have had a moniker for it. Something to call it. Yeah.

Haden Keen: [00:03:20] It, it got to my, it got so bad, my, uh, my being picked on in high school, it got so bad until my senior year. Um, the beginning of my senior year, I said, mom, it’s my senior year. I don’t want a paraprofessional. I don’t want someone walking to me to my classes. I want to live my life as a regular student. And she’s like, okay. Uh, so honestly, the. Pinnacle point of my, uh, high school year was my senior year. My fourth year. Huh? Um, really got to meet a lot of people. Um, because every time when I met somebody, my parapro was always with me, and they’re like, why is she always following you? It’s like it was just a barrier for me. So I was just like, I want to go on. That way I can just focus. And, uh, senior year I did good. Um, I did my classes very better than, uh, before. Yeah. Um, I was failing in a few classes.

Stone Payton: [00:04:23] All right, so there’s that. So there’s for at least for you, there was an academic challenge, at least in the area of math, maybe in some other areas. Uh, did you find it that you were drawn to some other areas of school that maybe you were at least on par with everyone else? Or. Wow, I’m really good at this. It may be better than some other folks.

Haden Keen: [00:04:40] Uh, I was really good at, um. I did a, uh, JROTC. Oh, okay. Uh, for four years in high school and that kind of. Built the courage I have. I’ll bet. And, um. So one day, uh, my colonel, um, decided to. He was just like, I’m gonna form up a rifle team. So, uh, we shot, uh, CO2 cartridge. Oh, not not.

Stone Payton: [00:05:10] Flipping the rifle. Shooting. No. Shooting the rifle. Okay. Yeah. So you’re a good shot.

Haden Keen: [00:05:14] I, I did, um, all right. Am, uh, I out shot my colonel? Um, and he’s been in Desert Storm. Uh.

Stone Payton: [00:05:24] Oh, my God, he drove. You don’t beat the customer at golf, Haden. You’re not supposed to shoot the colonel.

Haden Keen: [00:05:29] I’m not supposed to shoot the colonel. Right. But it was good, though, because he was like, I have seen. He’s like, I used to be a tank driver. I used to drive the M1 Abrams tanks, the big the big boys. And I was the gunner. So, uh, and he’s like, the amount of years that I’ve done this, uh, rifle team, I have never been out shot. Wow. Until today.

Stone Payton: [00:05:56] What a confidence builder.

Haden Keen: [00:05:57] I was just like, oh my God. She’s like, yeah, I want to I want to, um, recruit you. And I was like. And so I was like, okay, so but during that process of me getting recruited, um, I had a, uh. What would you call it? Stigmatism. Yeah, I had a disease called keratoconus. And for those of you who don’t know what that is, it’s a. Retinal disease, its attacks, the vision in your retina.

Stone Payton: [00:06:29] Not good for a rifle guy.

Haden Keen: [00:06:31] Not good for a rifle guy. Um, so unfortunately, I didn’t. I’ve been dealing with that. Um, so because of it, it was during my process of getting recruited for the Army, um, I couldn’t I wasn’t eligible, I even if I did, uh, get eligible, I knew I was going to get a medical discharge anyway, because. Right, right. I have autism and the probably the psych training, or I would have been flagged for something, so it just wouldn’t have been a good fit.

Stone Payton: [00:07:08] So do you feel like those experiences, some of them clearly very negative though, may have had a little bit of a positive lining to them. And the reason I’m asking is it occurs to me you must be an incredibly resilient person at this, at this point in your life, someone who can come back from adversity and, you know, whatever it is, I can, you know, if you get a minor wreck on a on the way home, I can bounce back from this or whatever.

Haden Keen: [00:07:35] I’ve been in two wrecks.

Stone Payton: [00:07:36] Oh, okay. I just struck a chord. No, no, but some people that would just I mean, it would just crush them, you know, like. Yeah, or so, but it sounds. Is that accurate? Then you you’re resilient.

Haden Keen: [00:07:48] It has um, when I haven’t been resilient until I haven’t been really resilient until, um. I think it was. Before the first gala. I spoke about that.

Stone Payton: [00:08:07] The first gala for the Circle of Friends thing. And we’re going to talk. Yeah, we’re going to.

Haden Keen: [00:08:11] Talk about Circle of Friends in a little bit. Uh, but but the.

Stone Payton: [00:08:14] First gala was a was a turning point for you.

Haden Keen: [00:08:18] The gala wasn’t just I’ll. I’ll jump into this story. Yeah, yeah. So, uh, it was what, 2022. Mhm. Of last year. Um, I have been for a while now I have been dealing with suicidal depression.

Stone Payton: [00:08:38] Okay.

Haden Keen: [00:08:38] And it’s been because of me being picked on through elementary middle and high. Yeah. Until my again my senior year in high school. And then even after that, um, I’ve, um, just been just people have been picking on my autism. It’s just like you’re different. You’re you’re this you can’t do this. It’s like, well, actually I can it would take me some time. And just people weren’t like that back then. They didn’t really understand it. And so they shunned me. The the whole community is shunned kind of. It’s just like. Anyway, um. So yeah, for a while I’ve been dealing with suicidal depression. Uh, to the point where. I’ve attempted to kill myself like three times. I’ve tried to take my life. Uh, you can name it. Um.

Stone Payton: [00:09:38] And do you feel like you’re surely not the only person know had those feelings for this reason? Yeah. So that is then a challenge in the autistic. It is community. It is. Wow. I guess I did not realize that it is.

Haden Keen: [00:09:53] Um, and I personally want to shout out to if you are ever going through something. Don’t ever be afraid to ask. Um, I know people nowadays think like they want to be tough, and, uh. You know, not. Um. Speak out. Uh, but seriously, speak out. Like there nowadays there are people willing to help you. There’s a hotline. There’s a suicide hotline. Uh, get that number. Um, so what was.

Stone Payton: [00:10:26] The catalyst for you? Because you mentioned the gala. Was it getting ready for the gala? Was it something that happened at the gala?

Haden Keen: [00:10:31] It was before the gala, or actually, it was after it. Um, because I. Before the gala I was in Florida. I was in a whole nother state dealing with my mental depression. Um, uh, suicidal depression. I was in like the perfect place. I was in Delray Beach in Florida. That sounds awful. I know right? Um, but they’re they did what was called, um, they did an operation or not an operation. They did a. Test theory that the FDA approved in Florida. It was called brain mapping. Okay. It was called brain mapping. And so what they did. What they did was they hooked electrodes to my brain. Right. And it I felt no shock. It wasn’t like shock therapy. Um, but it was just you’re just watching actual television or you, they say, like, watch a Netflix show and they on the screen, it shows your brain. Being remapped like all the.

Stone Payton: [00:11:41] Based on the input, based.

Haden Keen: [00:11:43] On the input of the show you’re watching. Wow. They remap your brain. And, uh, they said I was down there for three months during doing this treatment. And, uh, and.

Stone Payton: [00:11:55] So in this mapping and you may not know all this detail, but if you and I sat down and we both watched a Netflix that’s in a genre we both like, right. And would would our maps look similar? Very different. They would certainly they both respond to the stimuli, right? Yeah, they.

Haden Keen: [00:12:11] Respond to the stimuli.

Stone Payton: [00:12:12] Of course. I’m assuming I don’t have autism. I don’t know, we may find out that I do by the end of the show. Yeah. Go ahead.

Haden Keen: [00:12:18] But yeah, they did. They showed me on this computer screen of my brain and how it was active. And they were like, you see this firing neuron right here? I’m like, yeah, they’re like, that’s your active stimuli. And while you’re watching the TV, it’s going crazy, huh? And they’re like, what do you have? I said, well, I have autism. And they saw one of them was a nurse, a medical professional or a CRN. And she’s like, what’s this like indentation in your brain right here? They saw it on the screen and I’m like, that’s my autism. And they’re like, really? I’m like, yeah. And they’re like, I never knew. I’m like, physically, you would think that I don’t have autism. But if you look at my brain, it’s there.

Stone Payton: [00:13:07] Okay, so you got some education. You were informed you had an experience with people that were trying to help you get a handle on things. So that was a part of the this, uh, this switch in mindset. Yeah, it maybe it’s not fair to represent it as a switch. It occurs to me it was a switch.

Haden Keen: [00:13:23] You can say that. Yeah, it was a switch in my brain. And it didn’t really get affected until I was. It really didn’t. I really didn’t see the concept of it working until the last. The the day after the first gala we had, because I was there physically, right? But mentally I was not there mentally. My mind was still in Florida during this treatment. And so here comes the this goes into the story I’m sitting at my at. Hartsfield-jackson International Airport. Waiting on my flight to go back to Florida to finish up my treatment because I wasn’t done yet. I still had three more months to go. It was a total of six month process. So I’m so as I’m sitting in that airport at my gate waiting for to go back to Florida, it gets delayed. So I’m like, you know, nothing of it. Okay, ten minute delay. Okay. Another ten minutes goes by, gets delayed again. This happened a total of seven times stone seven.

Stone Payton: [00:14:35] Like people that would drive me nuts. Oh my God. Yeah, I’m a pretty happy go lucky resilient guy. Yeah. So did it set you on edge or did you.

Haden Keen: [00:14:43] It did. It did set me on edge. I’m like, God, I call my mom. And I said, I, I’m on the phone with her and I say, mom, my flight has been delayed seven times and at this time it’s about 7:00 at night, right? Right. My flight was supposed to leave at three, so I’m just like, there is no way I am staying at this airport overnight just to catch this flight. Yeah. And she’s like, well, just wait one more. Just, you know, I’m I’m working. I can’t drive to the airport to come get you, you know? Can you wait a little bit? I said, sure, I guess at this time I’m already pissed. Like I’m just gonna.

Stone Payton: [00:15:28] Well, seven delays would equal seven Bourbons for me, so they wouldn’t have let me on the plane. Yeah, yeah.

Haden Keen: [00:15:34] Um, but yeah. So I’m at this seventh time. Uh oh. Um, I said to her, um, I said, mom, I think it’s a sign from God saying that I’m not getting on this flight. And I said, and at that moment I had every I’m going to be honest with you. I don’t know if you’re a Christian person. I don’t know your religion. But anyway, whatever it is, I accept. But I’m just going to tell you what I experienced. I experienced the voice of God at that airport. Wow. And, um, or the voice of Jesus. Actually, he came and spoke to me and it all got quiet around me. I couldn’t hear nothing. And it was just like him and I having a conversation. Um, and, um, he was just like, what are you doing? I said, what do you mean, I’m doing? What do you think I’m doing? I’m going to Florida to finish my treatment. He’s like, you don’t need it. I said what? He’s like, you don’t need it. Granted to you. I got taken aback and he’s like, look, you don’t need it, Haden. You have a community around you. You went to an. A massive organization that your parents did for you. Mhm. Granted, you didn’t know that aspect of it. You didn’t know the general girth of it. But I’m giving you. Like. I’m giving you the gift of sight. And not through your eyes, but through my eyes. And I’m going to give you. Um, a gift. And I said, is it sight because I need it? And he’s like, yes, but also it’s going to be the gift of voice. I said, Why? I can speak pretty fine. He’s like, not through your eyes. I’m going to give you the voice to speak through mine. And. Then I it everything stopped. He left or everything stopped. And he’s like, now go home. I’m like, okay. So, uh.

Stone Payton: [00:17:44] And so you call mom. Look, mom, I’ve talked to Jesus, and you need to knock off work early and come get me. Uh, me and Jesus got this whole other plan. Oh, yeah, but no, you’ve got to at this point, you’ve got a new sense of purpose. Yes, yes, yes. Boy, what a powerful yes antidote purpose is to a lot of these things we’re talking about, right? Yes.

Haden Keen: [00:18:04] And he gave me the courage to speak out on this. He gave me the courage to, uh. He gave me the love to have for people. He gave me the love that I have for people he gave me. My mom and my dad who I’m just overwhelmed with joy with. So are.

Stone Payton: [00:18:24] You. You’re really you’re really trying to live into this, and you are trying to be more outspoken. You’re trying to support other people with autism. You’re talking more about it. You’re not ducking it. You’re not know as much. Woe is me. That guy’s looking at me funny because I have autism. You’re no a lot less of that, right?

Haden Keen: [00:18:39] Because of because of that. Because of that encounter, I have overcome my suicidal ideations. Uh, to this day, I have had no thoughts of suicide, no thoughts of harming myself or others. And I am completely. Changed.

Stone Payton: [00:19:00] That is fantastic, man. What a testimony.

Haden Keen: [00:19:03] Because of their their program, their brain mapping, I have.

Stone Payton: [00:19:08] Right, right.

Haden Keen: [00:19:08] And it was sitting at that airport, I had that realization to come on, be who I am today.

Stone Payton: [00:19:15] That’s a great endorsement. We’ll send them a bill. Yeah. Uh, all right, so let’s.

Haden Keen: [00:19:21] Dive into Florida Recovery group, Florida.

Stone Payton: [00:19:23] Recovery group, Florida.

Haden Keen: [00:19:24] Recovery group in Delray Beach or in Boca Raton, Florida, or no, in Delray Beach, Florida. Yeah, they they’ve helped me out. Um, I want to go back and. Seriously. Just thank them all for helping me.

Stone Payton: [00:19:40] Absolutely. All right. So let’s talk more about we. You touched on the gala, but let’s talk a little bit about Circle of Friends. I know it’s had a tremendous impact on your life.

Haden Keen: [00:19:49] Circle of friends man. Let’s let’s dive into that. Uh, circle of friends is an organization for young adults with intellectual disabilities. Um. Uh, in layman’s terms, intellectual disabilities are is basically young adults with special needs such as autism, cerebral palsy, uh, nonverbal autism. I don’t really know that technical terms, but.

Stone Payton: [00:20:14] And these folks, in my experience and help me through this, may or may not have, um, like a lower IQ than other segments of the population. In fact, they may have a standard or above standard IQ, but they may have other challenges in expressing their thoughts. Or is that accurate? Okay.

Haden Keen: [00:20:33] Yeah. That’s accurate. Okay. Um. Hold on.

Stone Payton: [00:20:36] All right. We’re sourcing our.

Haden Keen: [00:20:38] Yeah. We’re sourcing everything.

Stone Payton: [00:20:39] Do you have your personal chat GPT over. Yeah.

Haden Keen: [00:20:43] Chat GPT.

Stone Payton: [00:20:44] That’s fantastic. Yeah. No. Go on. Yes.

Haden Keen: [00:20:47] Um, okay. It’s for, um, kids with intellectual disabilities and development such as cerebral palsy. Um. Down. Thank you. Down syndrome. Uh, and all that. It’s a place where they can be in the workforce. Um, uh, learn, uh, you know the job, right? The classic 9 to 5 or whatever. Your hours are, right. And get paid actual money. Like what your parents do all the time, right?

Stone Payton: [00:21:24] Right.

Haden Keen: [00:21:24] And, um, it’s a. You know, it’s a coffee shop. We we built a coffee shop. Um, so you’ll actually be in a. Uh, business system. It’s called square. And you will get a paycheck, like actual money. And you can actually put that in your bank account and save and. Be able to spend and do all that. All because of circle of friends.

Stone Payton: [00:21:53] And there again, one of the gifts. And there are many, I suspect, in becoming a part of that is you’re helping these folks gain that sense of purpose. Exactly. Yes.

Haden Keen: [00:22:06] Because like I said, people with autism can do every can do basically. Yet people with autism basically can do what you and I can. It would just take them a little bit. Some people do it in threes like I’ve, I, I’m not going to lie I, I will be honest. I was talking to a friend on another app uh, earlier today about autism and he’s like. Hey, I do things in threes. I said, well, that’s cool because, um, you know, it’s just like. And I’m like, how do you know that you have autism? He’s self-diagnosed himself. Okay. I’m just like, geez, mostly you have to have a doctor for that. But no, he did it himself. He researched what it was like. Uh, there’s a list, uh, an FDA approved list of what classifies as autism. And he looked it all up and he diagnosed himself. He’s like, dude, I keep closing the door three times. I said, well, there you go, that’s autism. And he’s like, how is that autism? I’m like, because you’re doing it in the Chronicle system of three, right? And then once you’re done with three, you can continue on with what you’re doing. Yeah. And he’s just like, wow, I never really thought of that. I’m like, yeah.

Stone Payton: [00:23:27] So when you’re at Circle of Friends, you’ve mentioned a couple of times, and not that I would know, but I suspect that you’re accurate. You’ve characterized yourself as high functioning. Yes. And that suggests to me that you are in you’re around folks that aren’t as highly functioning. It sounds like you’ve taken on some responsibility for supporting them, celebrating them, helping them feel better about themselves, helping. That’s got to that’s got to feel good, man.

Haden Keen: [00:23:53] My gosh. Now before before I was just like, okay, I’m around a bunch of people, you know. Mhm. And but I got to meet them and talk with them and just be like. You’re freaking awesome. Like, I have this great friend at the coffee shop. Uh, if you guys are in Woodstock, shout out to our coffee shop. Um, at the circuit. Uh, come in there Monday through Friday, 8 to 1.

Stone Payton: [00:24:27] Um, at least a third of my coffee budget is dedicated to that. And, uh, and they take the credit card. So actually, it’s not coming out of my budget. It’s Holly’s credit card. And I’m very generous with that. You know, I like the two people behind me. I don’t I buy them a cup of coffee. Yeah.

Haden Keen: [00:24:42] Yeah. And if I’m working, I’ll just give you a free cup. Hey. Sorry, mom. I have the owner in here. We have the owner, right, right. She’s just like, oh my God, just shut up. It’s funny. All right.

Stone Payton: [00:24:57] So let’s do let’s talk a little. You’ve touched on your journey in general. What is a day in the life of of Haden like like what are some activities in which you might engage?

Haden Keen: [00:25:08] Uh, I’m a gamer. Uh, I like to play video games. Uh, I used to be really good at it until I’ve, you know, grew up and body started. My body started saying, yeah, um, I have, uh, really? Yeah, I have Game keeper thumbs, um, because of it. Uh, well, technically it’s because I didn’t stop, suck up my thumb until I was 18.

Stone Payton: [00:25:33] And that was being a gamer. Was that a challenge, though, or was that something that came easy? That too was a challenge.

Haden Keen: [00:25:39] Because I have, um. And not only do I have autism, I have ADHD. So ADHD is like giving somebody and giving somebody an energy drink. It’s it’s basically the classic cartoon character, Speedy Gonzalez. He never just stops. He just constantly goes.

Stone Payton: [00:26:00] And some people with autism may, uh, display other characteristics, but they may not be ADHD or they may be very withdrawn. Yes. And not.

Haden Keen: [00:26:10] Some. Okay. Yeah. Some with autism, they can be like. There’s other aspects like I have. I know a friend who’s autistic, but he’s very highly OCD. Like you can give him a box of crayons and mix it all up and he will put those he’s not going to he’s not going to walk away for murder.

Stone Payton: [00:26:30] All right. So back to a day in the life of Haden. What would you do on a typical Tuesday, Thursday or whatever?

Haden Keen: [00:26:36] Uh, Tuesday, um, you would possibly find me sleeping, okay? Because, uh, Tuesday, sleeping in.

Stone Payton: [00:26:44] You don’t have to be at the coffee shop.

Haden Keen: [00:26:46] No, I have to be at the coffee shop. Oh, okay. At 745 and open it. Right. And you got you morning people like.

Stone Payton: [00:26:55] Well, Thursday morning, I know, you know, that’s that’s.

Haden Keen: [00:26:58] Thursday morning is like 10:00, 10 a.m. like sun’s shining and birds are chirping, but you.

Stone Payton: [00:27:04] Make Kyle run the register on Thursday morning.

Haden Keen: [00:27:06] Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

Stone Payton: [00:27:08] He’s always early on.

Haden Keen: [00:27:09] Thursday for.

Stone Payton: [00:27:09] Kyle.

Haden Keen: [00:27:10] You’re after Kyle after Kyle and Stephen. Okay. Uh, Kyle and Stephen are two, uh, employees at our coffee shop. Just fun, fun people to be around. Yeah. You got to go see them there. Uh, at Thursday from, I don’t know, their schedule, but Thursday mornings.

Stone Payton: [00:27:27] Yeah. Come to young professionals at Woodstock House. Yeah, and order some coffee. All right. So so you might go to Circle of Friends. What are some other things that you do? And I guess I’m also looking for a little insight on how your day may go differently than mine. I’m kind of semi-retired, and I do a lot of what I want to do, but I’m active.

Haden Keen: [00:27:45] I try to be very active in the community. Um, okay. Circle of friends. We have a social. We have a social group. Mhm. Uh, so it’s the first Thursday of every Thursday or the first Thursday of every month. We do a big social event. Oh, wow. Whether it’s, uh, playing board games or, uh, tossing cornhole, playing cornhole. Um, so, uh, we have a cooking class, uh, for. Yeah. Bowling.

Stone Payton: [00:28:17] Have you recently been to a cooking class?

Haden Keen: [00:28:19] I have, I’ve been to two of them, actually. We’re on our third season, uh, this year, uh, season three of young adult cooking class. What’d you cook? Uh, we’ve cooked, uh, meatloaf? Yeah, I made meatloaf for the first time. Um, we did pinwheels. Uh. We’ve done. Uh, desserts. We’ve done parfaits. We’ve done pizza. We did. We just finished, actually, last Thursday. We just had, uh, an Italian, a Italian baker, Italian chef. Come. Oh, baby. Yeah, come. And we made personal pan pizza or personal pan pizzas and. Oh, my gosh, Stone, you should have been there. They were so, so good.

Stone Payton: [00:29:08] Well, I would like very much to be there, but you know where this is heading. I’m glad you’ve had a positive experience with that. But well, mom’s going to say, look, you know how to cook. Yeah, yeah. And you don’t need me.

Haden Keen: [00:29:18] Of course.

Stone Payton: [00:29:19] Yeah. You make dinner tonight?

Haden Keen: [00:29:21] Uh, yeah, um, I do, I make dinner for myself and. Okay, I live by myself. Uh, unfortunately, I don’t live with my parents anymore. I moved, I.

Stone Payton: [00:29:31] Did not realize that, but there’s another, uh, set of challenges and opportunities for people depending on where they are on the spectrum. Is that the right is that spectrum? Yeah.

Haden Keen: [00:29:43] On the spectrum.

Stone Payton: [00:29:43] So yeah, that too. That’s a whole nother set of things to be thinking about and trying to aspire toward. If it’s practical. Yeah. To, to be able to, to live on.

Haden Keen: [00:29:54] That’s, that’s one of our uh, strands honestly, is to do a. Is to have community development. Um, for people like you, for people like me, for people like my mom or whoever, it’s. We want to be an intergenerational community. Um, that way, um, and it doesn’t have to be people with autism or special needs. Uh, it could just be regular human beings. Um, that’s basically what we are. Um, we’re not different people, right? Um, because I’m going to get historic on you. Um, because in the constitution of it, honestly, in the Declaration of Independence, it says we the people, not. You know we the non. Yeah we the non alienated people know it says we the people including people with special needs and including with people with disabilities. Right. They classify as people too. Mhm. And so. I have, we have that aspect is like people with disabilities or people with autism are people too, so why not? Put them or not really put them, why not integrate them into communities where there are people who don’t have disabilities? And see, I.

Stone Payton: [00:31:23] Think that’s a fascinating idea because as I’m not quite there yet, maybe, but but my folks are getting closer and closer. As people age, their world gets a lot smaller, right? Like, how great would it be if my mom and dad were living in proximity to a group of people that had some some of these special needs because they believe me, they have special needs and I’m sure I have special needs, but you probably do. I you know what? The more we’re talking about this, we probably all have special needs. Yeah. Uh, just maybe some of yours are more visible in the traditional society, but this. But isn’t that. That is part of the people who.

Haden Keen: [00:32:02] Load dishwashers, I swear to God, have OCD issues. Yeah. Dishwasher people. I don’t know how you guys properly load a dishwasher. I just throw my dishes in there. All right, well.

Stone Payton: [00:32:17] We kind of brushed over it, and you mentioned it as a strand. But isn’t this part of the grand plan is to create a community like you’re describing? We have.

Haden Keen: [00:32:26] Three strands. Actually, we have one that is uh, encouragement. Mhm. Uh, we have uh, social opportunities, which is our big events. Right, right. Our gala is more uh, the gala is more of our big fundraiser. Right. Um, but we have, um, every Friday. Every Friday we have what’s called cards with friends.

Stone Payton: [00:32:52] Okay, I stumbled onto this. I had a meeting with one of our main Street warriors. You know, you heard me talk about our community partner program at the circuit. And a lot of the people I recognize, some of them I didn’t because they may not actually work in the coffee shop where there was some playing. Uno. There were some. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That was on a Friday. Yeah.

Haden Keen: [00:33:09] It’s it’s our game day. Sweet. Uh, and stones not lying. We’ve had we have three giant white tables filled with, uh, young adults with disabilities playing a simple game of uno. Uh huh. And it’s awesome. It is literally awesome to see. And that’s why, I mean, I don’t well, I participate sometimes, but most of the time I’m just like talking to the people around me, like, yeah, this is what we do every Friday. So if, you.

Stone Payton: [00:33:39] Know, that’s where you pulled me aside, said, hey, you know, we we ought to do an episode.

Haden Keen: [00:33:43] Yeah, we got to do an episode.

Stone Payton: [00:33:44] Just I’ll let the cat out of the bag to me and Haden. We got some designs on, uh, on actually, uh, separate show that may involve some more consistent programing around this and related topics. Yeah.

Haden Keen: [00:33:57] So if you guys want to hear it, let’s don’t know. Spoiler alert. Yeah. Spoiler alert. But, uh, we have social opportunities like the gay like the we call it um, cards with friends on Friday. Mhm. Um, but I might actually change that to being like uno madness or something because it’s crazy or Haden wins. No, I don’t play. That’s why I don’t play because I win. Um, but we also have supportive employment, which is the coffee shop. Um, uh, we’re building another one in Hickory Flat.

Stone Payton: [00:34:30] I cannot wait. I know you guys have been working on this. How far out are we, you think?

Haden Keen: [00:34:34] Oh, we are. End of May. But if you want like numbers, percentages, we’re about maybe 75% of the way down. And, uh, we’re having a big work day on the 25th of April. So if you guys are listening and you guys are sitting at home thinking of what.

Stone Payton: [00:34:54] To do when you said works, I’m busy at work.

Haden Keen: [00:34:58] But for those of you who don’t in spirit. Yeah, there we go. Well, we’ll we’ll bring you in. We’ll do we’ll probably do a radio session at the location.

Stone Payton: [00:35:08] You know what? That actually is a great idea. We should do Radio day at one or both locations. That would be fun. That would be cool. All right. Put that in the hopper. We’re going to do. All right. So you got the you’ve got all these social opportunities. You’ve got supportive employment.

Haden Keen: [00:35:21] Support social opportunities tons supportive employment. And then we also have we’re trying to develop a community. We’re trying to find land whether in Hickory Flat we kind of hope we kind of want hickory flat because that’s really where it blossomed. That’s really where it started. Right? That’s kind of like our ground zero. Um, um, or we’re looking in Woodstock, where the circuit is, um, you know, the new development around in downtown Woodstock. It’s getting crazy. Um, and in this.

Stone Payton: [00:35:53] Development, would it kind of look and feel like we were talking about, uh, yes. There may be some autistic people, people with intellectual.

Haden Keen: [00:36:01] But it won’t be.

Stone Payton: [00:36:03] Exclusively.

Haden Keen: [00:36:04] It won’t be exclusive. There is a community in Roswell.

Stone Payton: [00:36:08] Right. We’re going to do what they do. But better, we’re.

Haden Keen: [00:36:10] Going to do what they do, but better. Yeah.

Stone Payton: [00:36:12] There you go. We are.

Haden Keen: [00:36:13] Um, we’re not going to. It’s not going to be apartment kind of outlook. It’s going to be more individual community housing. Right. Um, and uh, the community will be open to the public.

Stone Payton: [00:36:27] What a neat.

Haden Keen: [00:36:28] Idea. It’s going to be inclusive, intergenerational for all you big turn people out there. Uh, my mom is over here in the studio. She’s just texting me over her phone of the notes right now. It’s pretty comical. I wish you could see this. It’s pretty funny, but, yeah, it’s, uh, intergenerational. So that means people like you or me or my mom, whoever, um, can be in that organization with us. I love it. And the thing is, the very funny thing about people with autism is, um, some are very quiet, um, and some are very open. Uh, they just want a friend. Um, well, I’m.

Stone Payton: [00:37:13] Glad you’re going there, because what I’d like to do, you know, this is my show. Let’s talk about me for a minute. Yeah. Let’s go. No, as a as a layperson with some appreciation for and some some genuine desire to serve this constituency, this group of people. Um, I but I have questions, right? Like, okay, somehow, some way, I know the guy over there or the lady over here is autistic. What would you want me to know in general about autism or autistic people? And are there any like solid pro tips like do this, don’t do that or patience.

Haden Keen: [00:37:51] Patience. Patience is key. All right. Um, you have people who stutter and who get very excited very easily. So, um, my piece of advice for people who want to know how to deal with somebody with autism is patience. Just give it time. Like, everyone’s so like, rush rush rush rush rush, like on the on the go. Um. That’s okay. Like, I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, but just patience when you’re trying to talk to somebody who has autism. Tell them it’s okay. You’re in a safe space because here at the studio, I mean, I know now I’m in a safe space, but before I was very nervous, like, I came on the show. I said, I’m not going to lie to you guys. I’m like, Tom cruise first in first in that f f 14 Tomcat, you know, in Top Gun like that thing can book. But now I’m just relaxed. I’m calm, I’m chilled. Because I know I’m in a safe space and all. It was because of patience, you know? We could have had this done in like 20 minutes. But no, we just we’re just sitting here relaxing, chilling, talking. That’s all. That’s that’s basically what autism is all about. Just sit down, have a conversation with somebody and open your mind. Really. Don’t be like all questionI just let it flow. Like they’ll talk to you. They want to talk to you. We want to talk to you. We want to. Be informed. So patience, that’s one thing. And then let them know that they’re safe. To be around you.

Stone Payton: [00:39:37] Back to earlier parts of the conversation. Some of these folks have lived through some external pressures, like you talked about. Maybe they’ve been bullied, maybe they’ve felt bad about themselves. Maybe they’ve been in states of depression and recognize there’s a story behind all these people that goes perhaps, well, maybe adjacent to but well beyond just the fact that they have this right challenge. Right?

Haden Keen: [00:40:01] Right, right. Yeah. Um, you spoke about trauma. Um, um, I have, you know, I suffered with suicidal depression. Uh, there are people who go through, um, PTSD, childhood trauma, um, and, uh, you know, just even talking to somebody who’s been, uh. Say like abuse since they were a child. I’m going to go down this route. Um, they want someone who is very kind, very loving and very understanding, and they want them to know that. You need to tell them that. Like if you want to talk to them, be like, hey, you’re in a safe place. It’s okay. I am not going to judge you. I’m not going to discriminate you. I’m going to hear and I’m going to listen. And so tell me your story. And that’s what brought me here today. Honestly, I, I me being the social butterfly I am, um, my mom can tell me. It’s like he didn’t talk. He didn’t use to talk until he was like ten. Now he just doesn’t shut up. Five? Yeah. It’s like he didn’t used to talk until he was five. Now he never shuts up like that’s true. I don’t know when to start talking, but because of that, I. I use it to my advantage. I’ll be like. You know, I’ve always had no problem talking to people. I could go up to a random stranger and have a ten minute conversation with them.

Stone Payton: [00:41:36] Well, you have started to use it to your advantage, but you also have some real designs on using it to other people’s advantage. You’ve shared with me, and if it’s okay with you, I’ll. I’ll share with our listening audience. You have some real desire to continue to give, uh, this group of people a voice. Yes. And to comfort them and give them a safe space to share their stories. So we we’ve already mentioned we’re talking about possibly a radio show concept really dedicated to this set of topics. But you also mentioned, uh, maybe wanting to be on the on the speaking circuit. You would like to go out to groups. Want to go.

Haden Keen: [00:42:17] Out? Yeah. Um, I will be honest with you, uh, Stone, I have been, uh, trying to honestly get what’s called a Ted, a Ted talk. It’s now a Ted x. I think it is. Um, because every time I see it, it’s like Ted. And.

Stone Payton: [00:42:32] Yeah, they stole that from us. Business RadioX Ted.

Haden Keen: [00:42:35] Business RadioX with the big giant X. Um, but, yeah, I’ve been wanting to do Ted talks. Um, okay.

Stone Payton: [00:42:42] So it’s an unfair question, but I’m going to ask it anyway because I think you’re up for it. If you had to do a Ted talk tomorrow, that’s not how the process works. I’m a little bit familiar with it, but if you had to do a Ted talk tomorrow, uh, that I believe, uh, what? What are a couple of topics that you might want to make sure you cover? Uh, in that talk tomorrow morning.

Haden Keen: [00:43:01] I definitely want to cover autism and just be like, look, guys, you’re not alone. Like, I have autism, and I’m 31 years old. You know, my life, um, I was I was born in a country called Romania, in Bucharest, Romania. I did not.

Stone Payton: [00:43:19] Realize.

Haden Keen: [00:43:20] That I am adopted. Um, I came over here on, uh, not by boat, by most people. Um, I came here by plane. Um, uh, I was two years old when I got adopted here. Didn’t know anything. Not even a lick of English. And now look at me. Now I’m just talking on the radio. Um, I didn’t know who my parents were. Um, my adopted parents. My mom was sitting with me in the studio right now. Uh. I didn’t know her, so I bit her. Um, yeah. I’m going to be playing honest with you. Got off.

Stone Payton: [00:43:59] On the wrong foot there.

Haden Keen: [00:43:59] Buddy. Yeah. Um, and then for for all of that, like, just. You know, all of that. I mean, I was just a nightmare to take around. I, my mom can basically classify it as I was the Tasmanian devil. Like, I was nice, but, uh. You know, I was just. Havoc everywhere I go.

Stone Payton: [00:44:27] I started so you would tell this group about that. You’d give them your backstory all the way back to to day one Romania, as much as you can recreate for them, and you would share that with them. But but why? Why, what is it you’re wanting them to walk away from that, to.

Haden Keen: [00:44:42] Know that, to know that even you, even if you have autism and even if you have a disability, no matter what it is, you can overcome it. Or if not overcome it, you can learn to live with it. And that’s what I think a lot of people don’t understand. Yeah, is. Living with your disability. Most people are discriminated because of it.

Stone Payton: [00:45:07] Mhm.

Haden Keen: [00:45:08] But look at look at people in history. Look at Albert Einstein. He had autism. Did he really. He did. And he created one of the most deadliest weapons of all the atom bomb.

Stone Payton: [00:45:21] He wasn’t great with the hair.

Haden Keen: [00:45:22] He wasn’t great with the hair. Right? No, I think he stuck a little too many forks in electricity outlets.

Stone Payton: [00:45:27] I did not realize.

Haden Keen: [00:45:28] He was a child, but. Yeah. Look at, um. Uh, who else but.

Stone Payton: [00:45:34] You know, 50 years from now, somebody is going to be on a holographic version of this show, and they’re going to say Haden Keene was autistic. You’d never know it. But that guy that did all those Ted talks, Haden Keene, was autistic. They’re going to say the same thing. Yeah.

Haden Keen: [00:45:47] Um, and then you look at, um, just. Um, even, uh. Even people, even Hollywood stars who have disabilities. You look at, um. Uh, who’s a good example? Adam Sandler. He has bipolar. And he’s the funniest guy you will ever see.

Stone Payton: [00:46:10] Um, no. He’s built a tremendous, tremendous career. The talk you just described, and particularly if you could figure out how it begins and lands on that thought of living with it and maybe even more than living with it, leveraging it to serve other people.

Haden Keen: [00:46:26] Understanding it to. Okay, for me, it’s been a really hard, hard, um. And I’m just embracing it really. Just be like, okay, not not giving it a just a blow off a shirt, a blow off the shoulder. It’s a burden to live with autism. And I’m not saying that in a bad way. I’m not saying people with autism are this, that, that left, right and center. No. Learn to live with your autism or learn to live with your disability. I have tons of people. There’s a girl named Zoe. She’s bound to a wheelchair. But you look at her, she is the brightest uppity thing we were. We had a basketball event. Um, you know, some people can’t play basketball. Okay. Zoe is. I think. I think 100% disabled. She can’t speak. She. I don’t know about eating, but she can’t speak. She is completely bound to a wheelchair. She has 100% cerebral palsy. But when you see her, she has the brightest smile and she loves it. Why? Because she’s in a safe community like circle of friends. And we don’t discriminate. We don’t be like, oh no, you have this. No, you have this.

Stone Payton: [00:47:51] No, no. Or you don’t have enough of this, or.

Haden Keen: [00:47:53] You don’t have enough of this. You can’t shoot a basketball. Really? No. We accommodate for you. And that’s one thing that I think a lot of people don’t do is they don’t accommodate to people with different.

Stone Payton: [00:48:06] Well, I’m excited for your future, man. I see you speaking. I see you writing. I see you using all kinds of platforms to to to help people. Yeah, just.

Haden Keen: [00:48:18] Honestly, um, it’s it’s the little things that are the. It’s the little drops in the ocean that, uh, start. The wave. It’s not you. It’s. It’s just. Well, it is you. But I think if people. Really. Tune in on their aspects and enjoy. What? Pretty much God gave them, you’re going to live a better life. And I want to jump on this too, like the classic 9 to 5. You know, everybody wants that 9 to 5 job. Everybody wants that job.

Stone Payton: [00:48:59] Well not everybody.

Haden Keen: [00:48:59] Well, not everybody. But there are some people, but there are some people who are not happy, who are not satisfied with what they have. They want more. Yeah. They think, oh, I’m not you know, I have, you know, a car from like 2004. It still takes me to A and B, but I want that Lamborghini. Right. It’s like, yeah, we all want that Lamborghini. We all want to be that person. But learn to be humble with what you have, with what you have in your life. So far. Most people want bigger houses. Most people want. If you guys discriminate me, okay? Most people say they want a better wife. They want a better life. Why not just be humble with what you got? You have a house. You have a job you’re providing. Whether it’s for you, your partner or your family. Why do you want more?

Stone Payton: [00:49:55] I think you’re going to be a marvelous speaker. And I think you’re going to reach not only people that are experiencing the challenges that you’re directly relating to them, but I think people who don’t have those challenges are going to be, uh, more appreciative of what they do have and more inspired to work through whatever their bag of hammers is. You know, I think it was Michael J. Fox who said, everybody’s got their own bag of hammers. Yep. That they’re that they’re toting around.

Haden Keen: [00:50:20] Uh, a good, um, good example is, um, I live on my own. I don’t live with my parents no more.

Stone Payton: [00:50:29] Um, how clean is the place, Haden?

Haden Keen: [00:50:32] Uh, it it actually is pretty clean. Is it all right? Yes.

Stone Payton: [00:50:35] Again. What, are your OCD friends over there? Yeah.

Haden Keen: [00:50:37] No, it was just me.

Stone Payton: [00:50:39] There are advantages in in knowing people in the community.

Haden Keen: [00:50:41] Yes, yes. And knowing this community, you’d be like, hey, can you clean my house? I’ll pay you. I don’t want to clean it. But no.

Stone Payton: [00:50:48] You live on. You live on your own.

Haden Keen: [00:50:50] I live on my own. Mhm. Um, I live in Holly Springs. Uh, I have a. Uh, facilitator. I have a support person. Mhm. Um, who comes every, uh, Wednesday and, uh, takes me out in the community. Uh, I’m going to tell everybody I’m about to go bowling today. Like, sweet. I was, uh, I had a, a basketball injury. I tore a muscle in my leg so I couldn’t, you know, bowl as great.

Stone Payton: [00:51:22] Well, you got past that. Just like I got past my first.

Haden Keen: [00:51:25] My first time bowling in a long time. I bowled a 140. That in the bowling world, that’s pretty good. It’s not a 200 or 300, but it’s pretty good for a kid with autism at 31. Bowling 140. Let’s go. Um, and that gives me the drive. That gives me the power to do better. It’s like, okay, I bowl a 140. How about I bowl a 145? You know, let’s try to bowl 145. Right. And that’s well.

Stone Payton: [00:51:54] You touched on this a minute ago. It’s um, I think sometimes we, we hear conversations like this, and if anything, from wanting to do something for me personally to better my own situation or to try to help this group of people that were learning about, I think sometimes the initial reaction is, I’ve got to make this big grand gesture, but but you really don’t.

Haden Keen: [00:52:18] You really don’t. You could like people like nowadays. I think now there is more of a mood. There is more of a movement now, I think because of. You know. I mean, because of Covid. Now everybody. Is just trying to get like. I’m going to be honest with you, Stone. People are trying to get money like really fast. Mhm. And you have the government did the stimulus checks. Mhm. And I think people I personally believe um I’m on the fence with those honestly. I mean yes they were a good idea sending it out to people who really need it. Mhm. And then there were and then I think it was a bad thing because. You sent it out to everyone, and which was a good thing. You know, people used it wisely. And then there are people out there who used it not wisely. Like. You know, you get $1,400 to help with bills. Rent. Uh, groceries. And then there were people. It was all of it was just.

Stone Payton: [00:53:39] Are you suggesting some people didn’t spend that on. Yes. Groceries?

Haden Keen: [00:53:42] Yes. I’m suggesting because there are, there have.

Stone Payton: [00:53:46] But yeah, where I was headed with that with that comment is that you really don’t have to make this grand gesture in your own life. You know, just change up one little habit, you know, do one little thing. Or if you’re trying to serve somebody, you don’t need to write them this great big no check. We don’t slide by and have a conversation with some one, you know, back up a coffee.

Haden Keen: [00:54:05] Exactly. I have I have a friend, I have a friend. He is my best friend. And he told me one day he said, Haden, you want to know what the problem is with this world? I said, oh my God.

Stone Payton: [00:54:19] You said, no, I really don’t know.

Haden Keen: [00:54:20] No, I really don’t. But he’s like, no, no, no no no no, listen, listen, understand me? I’m like, okay. So I took a deep breath and I listened to him. He said, Haden, the biggest problem with this world is, is that nobody is willing to sit down and talk. They always want to get the next best thing. They always want to get the next big jump. Or everything.

Speaker4: [00:54:43] Yeah.

Stone Payton: [00:54:44] Well, that’s definitely something to think about there. Look at your.

Haden Keen: [00:54:47] Friends. I guarantee you, if I will. My mom’s tapping me here. She’s like, talk about your girlfriend. I’m like, I will, I’ll get there. Um, but the biggest thing is. Sit. Look at your friends list. Look on Facebook. I guarantee you, nowadays people have 1000 or 3.5 K followers on Facebook, right? Do you really know all of them?

Stone Payton: [00:55:16] I certainly know.

Haden Keen: [00:55:17] All of your friends know. I don’t. I think I have like 135 on my Facebook, and the reason why I’m not into the thousands or into the K’s is because I don’t want to. I have my I have my.

Stone Payton: [00:55:32] In real life and real genuine in real.

Haden Keen: [00:55:35] Life. I wish I had more friends, I do, but I’m happy. I’m humble. If I get friends, cool. All right. If I don’t, then okay.

Stone Payton: [00:55:44] Before we wrap, let’s talk about one last friend because I think mom wanted you to mention.

Haden Keen: [00:55:48] Oh, yeah, my my girlfriend. Speaking of friends, I have a girlfriend. Yeah. Her name is Lily. Okay. He is the most wonderful thing I have ever met in my life.

Stone Payton: [00:55:58] Oh, shout out to Lily.

Haden Keen: [00:55:59] Yes. Hi, honey. Um. She came to me when I was in my darkest and I said, look, I am not what you want right now. I am broken, I am hurt. I’ve been through in relationships where people have taken advantage of me. Most mostly it’s been money or. Um, when I do have the money and I do want to spend my time with you, it’s either I’ve been stood up on dates. Mhm. And all that.

Stone Payton: [00:56:34] And you had the presence of mind to tell her, look, yeah.

Haden Keen: [00:56:38] I had the present. Yeah. I said, look, this is not the right time for me. I don’t want a girlfriend. She’s like, I don’t want to be your girlfriend. I want you to be my boyfriend. I said, well, first of all, I’m not even boyfriend material. I haven’t even got my shit together. I’m still living with my mom. And she’s like, that’s okay. I want you for you. I don’t want you for what you can become. And I said. Can I, can I think about it? She’s like, yeah, you can think about it. Stone ice thought real hard for three days if I wanted to be in this relationship with her. And the thing that made me jump to her, like within the snap of a finger is because when I said, can I have three days to think about it during those three days, Stone, she she she texted me, she’s like, hey. Are you okay? Are you okay? I didn’t she knew that I was going through stuff, but she put it upon herself to say, hey, are you okay? I am with you through this step, through this journey you are going through, I am here.

Stone Payton: [00:57:48] That is fantastic. Hey, listen, we’re going to continue this conversation. Maybe, ah, maybe on the Haden Kean Show or whatever you decide to call it. But for right now, let’s leave our listeners with a way to get in touch with you or to learn more about Circle of Friends, whatever you think is appropriate, a website or whatever.

Haden Keen: [00:58:05] If you’re one of those people that if you’re a website person, um, I don’t have a website up for me at least. But I do have a Facebook. It’s, uh. Haden. That’s h a d e n. Uh, Kean. Um, Kean. Like the shoe brand. Kean. Um, I think those are Kean’s with the s, but. No. Is it? It is. Kean k e n. Yeah or circle of Friends inc.org. Fantastic. Or you can go onto Google and type in Circle of Friends. Um Cherokee County we’re there. Or if you want to get me directly and like, okay, maybe not. They’re all saying no, no, no, no in the booth, whatever. Um, if you want to find me, uh, find me on Facebook at Haden Keene. Uh, I have a what’s my profile? Oh, you’re.

Stone Payton: [00:59:07] Going to be so easy to find. Now you’re a rock star. You’ve been on the Business RadioX network, man, I know all I gotta do is Google you.

Haden Keen: [00:59:12] It’s, uh, me and a Kennesaw sweatshirt. Um, my cover picture is me and my girlfriend on the cover photo as soon as you pop it up. Uh, so, yeah, I hope to hear from you again.

Stone Payton: [00:59:25] Well, I got to tell you, man, it’s been a real pleasure having you in the studio today. We are going to continue the conversation. Thank you so much for sharing your story, your insight, your perspective. Uh, this has been great fun, man.

Haden Keen: [00:59:39] It all started with you. You were the one who said yes.

Stone Payton: [00:59:42] My pleasure.

Haden Keen: [00:59:43] But thank you. I want to from me personally. Thank you, Stone, for doing everything that you’ve done for Circle of Friends. Like you hosted our, uh. Uh, cornhole tournament. Like from me. I want to say thank you for hosting it, because people probably would never have heard of us if you didn’t talk about us on your radio station.

Stone Payton: [01:00:05] Well, you are welcome, sir. I’ve enjoyed every minute of it. All right, until next time. This is Stone Payton for our guest today, Haden keen by. And everyone here at the business Radio X family saying we’ll see you again on Cherokee Business Radio.

 

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BRX Pro Tip: Try More and Succeed More

April 15, 2024 by angishields

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Stone Payton: [00:00:00] And we are back with Business RadioX Pro Tips. Stone Payton, Lee Kantor here with you. Lee, today’s counsel, today’s topic, try more and succeed more.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:13] Yeah, I think trying things is so important in doing pretty much anything. The more things you try, the more likely it is that you will have success. It’s so funny if you look at musicians or comedians, musicians don’t only create hit songs. They have to create hundreds, if not thousands of songs that are eh, or they’re bad, or they’re okay, in order to find that hit song. They don’t just make hit songs. Comedians don’t just make funny, memorable jokes. They have hundreds, if not thousands of terrible jokes of things that didn’t hit, that didn’t work, that you forget when you remember the one that did.

And that’s really the secret of success, is just try, try, try, and you will get those successes. And when you have those successes, that’s when you need to double down and really kind of wring out the most value from that. And most people just aren’t willing to try hundreds or thousands of times to find the success. You have to have the mental toughness to try, learn, try again over and over and over until you succeed, because that is what it takes to become successful.

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Tom-KosnikTom Kosnik, founder and president of the Visus Group is one of the staffing industry’s leading experts in organizational design, profitability improvement and work culture transformation. With a commitment to empowering staffing firms with the knowledge and tools to help business owners increase the value of their enterprise asset by helping them grow their business. Tom has coached and consulted hundreds of staffing executives throughout North America using his empirical based “Organizational Development Business Model” (ODBM). Most notably, Tom is the founder of the Presidents RoundTable, a nationwide leadership forum program strategically aimed at helping staffing professionals collaborate and solve industry challenges.

With over 25 years of consulting experience in the staffing industry, Tom’s diverse array of services have helped numerous staffing firms across the country improve their operations and bottom lines. As a RoundTable facilitator, Tom leads real world business problem-solving sessions in which he advises top executives on a variety of matters, including how to make winning business decisions; achieve profitability benchmarking; and reach peak performance through best practices. To date, he has conducted over thousands of RoundTable forums for all types of staffing professionals, including presidents and CEO’s, CFO’s, CRO’s, and CMO’s.

Throughout the course of his career, Tom has been a frequent speaker for many world-renowned industry organizations and corporate groups, including the American Staffing Association (Staffing World); National Independent Staffing Association (NISA); Illinois Staffing Association (ISSA); California Staffing Professionals (CSP); Missouri and Kansas Search and Staffing Association (MKSSA); and Massachusetts Staffing Association (MSA). He has presented on a variety of topics, including leadership development; strategic planning for small and large staffing firms; compensation planning; best management techniques; and mergers and acquisitions, among countless other topics.

Tom’s research and expertise has been published in dozens of national industry publications, including Staffing Industry Review; International Human Resource Management Journal; and Chicago Law Journal, just to name a few.

Tom holds an M.A. from Bowling Green State University in Organizational Development and a B.A. in Psychology from Seattle University. In addition, he is certified with the Center for Creative Leadership and a leading sales enhancement organization, MH Group.

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Intro: [00:00:04] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Atlanta, Georgia. It’s time for High Velocity Radio.

Stone Payton: [00:00:14] Welcome to the High Velocity Radio show, where we celebrate top performers producing better results in less time. Stone Payton here with you this afternoon. You guys are in for a real treat. Please join me in welcoming to the broadcast with the Visus Group, Mr. Tom Kosnik. How are you, man?

Tom Kosnik: [00:00:34] I’m doing fantastic. Thank you so much for having me on the show. It’s, uh, the day after the eclipse, and, uh, I am just full of positive energy.

Stone Payton: [00:00:47] Well, we are delighted to have you on the show. When I first saw that we were going to have a chance to to visit I, in my mind, I was thinking we would be talking to a staffing company. But no, you’re actually consulting to helping staffing firms produce better results in less time, aren’t you?

Tom Kosnik: [00:01:05] That’s absolutely correct.

Stone Payton: [00:01:07] Well, I got a ton of questions. We’re probably not going to get to them all, Tom. But. But maybe that’s a good place to start is just mission. Purpose? What you and, uh, you and your team are really out there trying to do for folks, man.

Tom Kosnik: [00:01:19] Yeah, yeah, great. We, uh, work with the senior leadership of staffing companies, uh, predominantly privately held staffing companies. And, uh, it from the outside, it looks like an easy industry, but, uh, Stone, you’ve got you got candidates and, uh, contract employees that walk and talk and have their idiosyncrasies, and you have clients that walk and talk and have their idiosyncrasies. And the staffing companies are really the mediator between those two entities. It’s the only it’s the only business where, uh, where, where the, the product that you’re representing is, uh, is a live, live, uh, person. And uh, so the staffing we, we help staffing companies grow and we have about 120 active staffing businesses across the United States and, and the Canada and, uh, yeah, it, uh, it’s great work.

Stone Payton: [00:02:18] Well, it sounds like noble and probably lucrative work, if you can get it, but I got to know what, uh, what’s the backstory, man? How in the world did you find yourself doing this kind of work for these kind of people?

Tom Kosnik: [00:02:31] Yeah, yeah, it’s a it’s a great question. I was making a career change, and I connected my, uh, my father in law, who’s a serial entrepreneur, he introduced me to a gentleman out of Cincinnati that taught in some of the business schools, and he was managing a small peer to peer round table program. And he he was interested in expanding and my, uh, buddy. But he wasn’t interested in managing people. So we struck a deal, and he taught me how to develop these, uh, these roundtables, these peer to peer roundtables. And at that, at that point, uh, the staffing industry was growing at 12% a year. And off we went. And and three years later, we had over 100 staffing companies and 8 or 10 different, uh, peer roundtables that, uh, that I was facilitating. And that’s all we did at that time was manage the peer roundtables. And, uh, and today now we have president roundtables, CFO roundtables, CRO roundtables, and CMO roundtables and, uh, yeah, no, no, uh, no dull moment. So it was a was a career change and, uh, just worked the network and, uh, lucked into it. And, uh, and here we are. Here we are today.

Stone Payton: [00:03:53] Well, I am genuinely intrigued with this peer to peer learning discovery growth model. Can you speak to the the virtues, the advantages of a peer to peer model for people who are trying to accomplish more?

Tom Kosnik: [00:04:10] Yeah, our our clients tell us that the most effective learning that they can get, and we do have a lot of we do have a lot of clients that read books and take classes and do things online. Uh, but they tell us that the most effective, uh, way that they learn how to grow their business is peer learning. And that is people that have that are in the same industry that have tried, uh, tried certain things, have accomplished certain goals, have climbed certain mountains. And to learn from that experience, uh, is is invaluable. And that’s so that’s, that’s one side of the coin. And the other side of the coin is is what? We do, how we break open these these questions, these topics, these issues, these challenges that that the men and women that own and manage these businesses have and trying to get them to see things differently. So Stone, the the Einstein said, you cannot solve a problem at the same by thinking at the problem the same way you’ve been thinking. So you really have to change the way that you think about the the problem in order to come up with a creative, creative solution.

Stone Payton: [00:05:40] So it’s certainly one thing to get a group of people like that together. And even if we got them together over a glass of bourbon, there’s probably something good that would come out of it. But but for you to to do your work, there must be structure, methodology, rigor, discipline around all this. Can you speak to to that a little bit?

Tom Kosnik: [00:05:58] Absolutely, absolutely. We one of our differentiators is that we facilitate through a creative problem solving process. There are a lot of really good peer to peer, uh, roundtables and, uh, things like that. But but what what differentiates us is the creative problem solving process that, that we facilitate through. And the way that that works. It’s, uh, a little bit of a touch of organizational development, but but Arthur Van Gundy, who was the grandfather of creative problem solving, he taught at the University of Nebraska and Lincoln and and I was trained by him. And he connected me with a bunch of, uh, his associates that taught me all kinds of great things about creative problem solving. But it’s really a process of allowing somebody to unpack an issue. And then for the rest of us that are in the room to ask questions, you know, the five level deep questioning, uh, where tell me more about that. Tell me more about that. Tell me more about that. And Stone, here’s here’s what we never talk about. And this is this applies to your your life with your kids, your spouse, your your business associates, anything that you’re trying. I want to lose weight. I want to run a marathon. Uh, we have certain assumptions about the way that the world works, about the way that men and women relate about the economy, about employees, about how sales are done. And in order to get somebody to, uh, resolve, resolve an issue at a different level, we have to ask questions, good questions deep enough where we get those unspoken assumptions out on the table.

Tom Kosnik: [00:07:57] And if, if, if once those assumptions come out on the table, then the person who is in the batter’s box, so to speak, that’s trying to resolve an issue or trying to get past an issue, uh, which if we get those assumptions out on the table and then put those assumptions under the microscope, and if we can get them to change those assumptions, two things, two things happen. One, the whole construct of what they’re trying to achieve changes. They see the world differently and they behave differently towards the problem. And ultimately, you’ve heard it, uh, how many times do people try to solve a problem by doing the same thing that they’ve always done before? And it’s not a it’s just it’s human nature. But the reason that one of the reasons that is, is because they are operating under the same unspoken assumptions that they have about how the world and business and people, uh, work together. And so that’s that’s what we do at, uh, at the roundtable and, uh, many, many, many times, uh, the business owners that are with us, uh, say the, the, uh, that phase of our creative problem discussion where people are asking really deep, thoughtful. Moving questions becomes even more important than somebody telling me, well, I did this and these were the results. And if I were in Usher’s shoes, I would do that. They tell us that that’s that’s almost more important than getting actual responses from from other attendees in the, in the group. Uh.

Stone Payton: [00:09:45] So I have an observation from admittedly very limited experience in some kind of group setting where, you know, a small group of us were genuinely trying to help another person think through, through their, uh, through their challenges. Well, a couple of observations. One, we didn’t have to be geniuses about their thing. We just kind of made it easier for them to to talk about and ask themselves some questions. So that was one observation that was kind of revealing for me. But also I came away from that, even though the purpose of that period of time was to help Bill, I felt like I came away from it better to like like my thinking was more crystallized, solidified in my it made me that much better of a practitioner in my cases. Is that something that you see a lot? Is that a unique.

Tom Kosnik: [00:10:35] Oh, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there are some times where, uh, yeah, where people come where people come to the roundtable and they may not have an issue at all. Yet they come up to me and say, Tom, this was the best roundtable I’ve been to in the last five years. Uh, because they learned something. Somebody else had an issue that they may have not even realized was an issue for their business also. And, uh, and then, of course, their, their mind is, is is reeling and then look, uh, we, we, we do want to help people. So at, uh, most most individuals do want to help each other. And there’s that sense of giving and that sense of building community and a sense of of helping one another. That really is a it’s a good, a good, uh, not an ego, but just a good human development sort of thing. And I should say the other the other piece of it, stone, is the, the what we call the leadership development piece of it. And that is that. Uh. Uh, no. Well, of course you’re going to be thinking about things differently, you know, upon your departure. But the leadership development is that one one is developing as a leader, one is growing, one is developing particular competencies about about. So for example, I have a, a client that’s been in the roundtable for, you know, maybe 12 years. And he recently shared with me, uh, I’m really Tom. I’m really trying to slow down, really understand what’s going on in my business and just ask, observe and ask much better questions, not only of myself, but my key reports so that we can not just make a decision, but that we can make a prudent decision. That’s, that’s that’s not just based on hearsay, not based on emotion, not based on solely on fact, but just good, solid decision making. So there’s that dynamic of of leadership development that happens as a result of these of these peer groups as well.

Stone Payton: [00:12:54] So now that you’ve been at this a while, what’s the most rewarding? What’s what’s the most fun about it for you?

Tom Kosnik: [00:13:02] You would think that after 30 years of facilitating these, these roundtables, that that I would be bored and would want to move on. But it’s more exciting now than it has ever been because things are changing so fast. But the most, the most rewarding is really to see, see our clients develop and grow and become the leaders that they were called to become. And it’s a it’s a it’s a very great thing when, you know, a company that’s got 350 employees or 525 employees, you know, is that is that company grows and becomes more profitable, there’s more opportunity all the way down from the leader down. So we’re really affecting opportunity for all those individuals within those within that organization. And it’s a it’s a very honorable, very honorable thing to, to be to be a part of.

Stone Payton: [00:14:05] You must sleep very well at night because, I mean, clearly you’re doing important, important work, and I’m sure it’s financially lucrative, but I, I just I get the sense that a great deal of your comp package is, uh, what I would characterize as emotional compensation. Yeah, yeah.

Tom Kosnik: [00:14:20] Yeah, yeah, that would be fair. That would be fair to say. That’d be fair to say.

Stone Payton: [00:14:24] So how does the whole sales and marketing thing work for a guy like you? A practice like yours that is mature as it is, do you still find yourself out there with a need for a systemic methodology or strategy for getting new clients? The stuff just come in over the transom.

Tom Kosnik: [00:14:45] Oh yeah. No, absolutely. I mean methodology, discipline, there’s there’s freedom and discipline, right. That uh uh, so we we have a method, we have two selling methodologies, one, uh, for bringing in new roundtable guests to, uh, to find out if they would make for a good member in a roundtable program. And then we also do a lot of consulting, organizational development, consulting work. And so that’s a different, uh, different. And it all starts with knowing knowing the ideal client, knowing the buyer persona, knowing the buyer journey, uh, not getting ahead of ourselves or too far behind ourselves in terms of that. There’s alignment between, you know, the buyer journey and what we’re presenting to, to the buyer, uh, and, uh, and then managing that, having a CRM and doing things on LinkedIn and doing posts and social media, all those, you really have to have some kind of a game plan and a methodology and consistent execution. That’s where a lot of, unfortunately, a lot of companies, uh. They get going on something and then they it goes by the wayside or, uh. But consistency is is the big thing consistent and persistent is.

Stone Payton: [00:16:11] Sounds like you’ve been reading my mail because, you know, uh, my business partner, Lee and I, we run the business radio network, and we’ll latch on to to something, a methodology, a framework. And it just it works so well, we stopped doing it, you know? Yeah. Right.

Tom Kosnik: [00:16:27] How is it? How does that happen? Right. Uh, it’s it’s funny.

Stone Payton: [00:16:32] Speaking of methodology and framework, you’ve kind of handcrafted and refined. Refined your own model for the odd work. Right. The organizational development work in, in I’m operating under the impression you, um, you establish and execute on that model, but you’re probably at a point now where you’ve also got to bring on other people that can execute that without. Uh, correct. Too much dilution. Yeah. Yeah.

Tom Kosnik: [00:16:57] We’ll we’ll get involved in strategic planning, financial analysis, some mergers and acquisitions, work compensation development. Uh, interim interim CFO, interim sales manager. But that’s not me. Uh, we, uh, I was three years into this, and I decided to get a master’s in organizational development from Bowling Green State University, which which is in a top three, uh, organizational development programs in the country. Uh, so now, uh, you get you we have over over 100 independently owned companies as clients. They all have challenges and issues and things that we can help them with. Uh, and so now it yes, we we, we have people that have competencies and expertise in certain ways, whether that’s valuation work, whether that’s interim sales management, whether that’s coaching CFO, whether that’s looking at a tax tech stack, whether that’s doing an internal assessment on the business overall, like all those all those projects, we we have people on staff that are that are that are executing on on those. So it’s it’s a good spot. It’s a good spot to be to be in.

Stone Payton: [00:18:12] It sounds like you’re able to keep the work fresh. And at the same time, I got to believe that you must run into some, uh, patterns, I guess, like with. And maybe you don’t vocalize that just yet this early in the conversation with them, but you’re thinking to yourself, yep, I’ve seen this one. Oh yeah.

Tom Kosnik: [00:18:31] Yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Although every time I say I’ve seen it all, uh, sure enough, uh, something gets said or something gets shown to me and I’m like, wow, I thought I seen it all, but that’s. I never, never seen that. Uh, there are some similarities. Uh, and I would say, uh, the, uh, the plateaus that, uh, there’s a lot of entrepreneurs that start a business and they hit a plateau. And there are various levels of plateaus. Uh, there’s the owner operator that gets in his own way or can’t not delegate or, uh, or doesn’t doesn’t, uh, doesn’t believe in methodologies and processes and, uh, and then there’s the middle market guys, the guys that are too big to be small, but too small to be big. And and they get what, what we call stuck in the middle. And then they start stagnating at 50 million or 80 million in revenue. And they can’t seem to they can’t seem to to grow past that. And, and and the funny thing is, is that, uh, oftentimes they, they make the same mistakes. Stone. All I need is a one more rainmaker. I just need to hire the lucky charm. And then somebody comes by who says I’m the rainmaker. And my salary needs to be 150 K, and I need to make 350,000. And I want to guarantee in the first year. And and they a lot of entrepreneurs fall for that. And, uh. In any year later. There’s no deals closed.

Stone Payton: [00:20:11] Yeah, another year and a half million dollars later.

Tom Kosnik: [00:20:14] Another. Another common. Another common mistake is, uh, is is, uh, uh, these businesses will go out and hire a president that came from a much larger organization. Well, if they were in that kind of an organization, they can come in and teach us how to go from here to there. But, you know, companies are made up of people. Every company has a different culture. Every company has a different mission and vision that they’re trying to accomplish. And and a lot of times, the execs that are coming from those big companies, they actually didn’t build anything. They they got on board after the business was a certain size. And they may have a lot of competencies and a lot of areas. But when it comes to, well, how do you take the business from 50 million to a half a billion? They’ve never done that before. And so I see I see that that’s another common, common error that that business owners will, will make as they’re trying to trying to grow the business. But yeah, we do see a lot of we do see a lot of common commonality in some of these things.

Stone Payton: [00:21:22] Well, with your pedigree, your experience base and I dare say maybe some scar tissue that you can call up when needed. I got to believe you’re called on to to speak. Do you find yourself on the dais talking to companies associations as a professional speaker?

Tom Kosnik: [00:21:39] Sure. Yeah. We we speak at, uh, state associations. National associations. We do a lot of podcasts like this. We do. We do quite a bit of that, uh, that work. Yeah. Well, the.

Stone Payton: [00:21:50] Reason I’m asking is I’m curious to know, like when you started speaking in front of large groups and you. And you’ve got this depth of knowledge, did it take you a while to figure out how to distill it to, to where it would be very beneficial for that short time period, but set the foundation to go do some real work at the opportunity presented it. So like, what was it like? What kind of shifts, if any, do you have to make when you’re speaking as opposed to facilitating? Because I think there is a pretty good distinction there, right? Oh, the first, the first.

Tom Kosnik: [00:22:24] When I first started speaking, I was terrible, terrible. Uh, and uh, a good friend of mine, I did a, I did a short stint. It was like a 15 minute thing and I thought I did well. And, uh, so I asked an associate of mine, hey, on a scale of 1 to 10, what would you rate me? And, uh, he rated me like, a four. Like four. And, well, you know, tell me why you rated me a four. And so then I went and got a, uh, a coaching for a, uh, to, uh, speaking, coaching and the best money I ever spent. And I try to I try to invest in myself, try to develop, uh, every year there’s certain things that I’m trying to learn or get better at. And so I’ll either I’ll either invest in, in a class or a coach or a program. And, uh, so anyway, I went ahead and, and, uh, and, and found a speaking coach and. My gosh, you just don’t know what you don’t know. You don’t know all the mistakes that you’re making. And and she was has has been continues to be a tremendous help. She’s helped me with speaking in front of groups of people, developing the outlines, uh, the execution, the and not just not just like in front of groups of people, but when I’m on camera, on, on, on video, when I’m doing these kinds of things, she really has, has educated me tremendously. I, you know, so that was that was my my experience.

Stone Payton: [00:24:02] Well, what a marvelous reminder. And I think important piece of counsel for anybody who’s listening out there. I don’t care how accomplished you are. The, the good ones, the great ones, man. They continue getting coaching and they’re life learners. And that’s the.

Tom Kosnik: [00:24:21] Yeah that’s the Stephen Covey right. Always be sharpening the saw.

Speaker4: [00:24:24] Yeah.

Tom Kosnik: [00:24:26] There’s a there’s a great you can put I don’t know if you have notes in your, in your uh in your podcast. But there’s a HBR Harvard Business Review, uh, uh, uh, paper that was written and I can’t remember the author’s name right now, but the, the, the title of it is The Power to see ourselves, the power to See ourselves. And it is I was written back in 1962. And Stone, let me tell you, if you read it, you would say, this is so applicable to to today, to every executive out there. Uh, and it just it really talks about taking ownership of my own development, uh, becoming a professional leader, a professional manager, and the whole that whole process. And there’s too much in that article for me to kind of go into. But it, uh, yeah, it’s such a great read. I yeah, such a great read. Well, believe.

Stone Payton: [00:25:28] Me when I tell you I’m going to read it. But speaking of reading, is there a a book in you? Do you have any designs on on writing a book?

Tom Kosnik: [00:25:37] Yeah, I’d love to. I’d love to. Yes. Uh, the, uh, in fact, I’ve got a little project going on right now. Uh, and, uh, once we get through that, I have an editor. Once I get to that, uh, I’ve got a couple more ideas, but I’m hoping to, uh, hoping to be able to to get a little bit more published. I’ve been published in magazines and things like that, but, uh, but a book. Book? Uh, I, uh, I’d love to some some of my lessons learned. I’ve got a handful of ideas that I want to, I want to process. So I’m on the front end, front end of that one stone.

Stone Payton: [00:26:13] Well, I look forward to reading that and following the story. And if you’re up for it, when you get ready to to release that, let’s let’s have you back on the show and talk about it.

Tom Kosnik: [00:26:23] Yeah. Yeah, we’d love to. I’d love to.

Stone Payton: [00:26:25] All right. What’s the best way for our listeners to tap into your work touch base, have a conversation with you or someone on your team.

Tom Kosnik: [00:26:32] You can look you can look us up on, uh, on LinkedIn or on the internet. We’ve got all the contact information and ways to to reach us. Uh, the website is Vise’s group. That’s v like Victor I s u s group. Group.com. Uh, and you can look you can also find us on LinkedIn. We post pretty regularly on LinkedIn. Uh, we’ve got a page, uh, Vise’s group page on LinkedIn, and I’m on LinkedIn. It’s, uh, it’s such a great, great tool for us.

Stone Payton: [00:27:04] Well, it has been an absolute delight to have you on the show, man. I really appreciate you sharing your insight and your perspective. You’re doing really important work and we sure appreciate you, man.

Tom Kosnik: [00:27:16] Thank you. Thank you so much. I, uh, I appreciate you saying so.

Stone Payton: [00:27:20] My pleasure. All right, until next time. This is Stone Payton for our guest today, Tom Kosnik with Vise’s Group and everyone here at the Business RadioX family saying, we’ll see you in the fast lane.

 

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BRX Pro Tip: 2 Easy Ways to Use Canva

April 12, 2024 by angishields

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Stone Payton: [00:00:00] And we are back with Business RadioX Pro Tips. Stone Payton and Lee Kantor here with you. Lee, more and more it’s important to have our audio, to also have a visually appealing element. One of the tools in our toolbag is Canva. What tips, if any, do you have on using this tool, Canva?

Lee Kantor: [00:00:24] Yeah. canva.com, if you haven’t been there, I would definitely check it out. It is a great resource if you want to add visuals to anything, really, in your business, but specifically in this case, we’re talking about how to add visuals to your podcast interview.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:39] So, first, go to canva.com, set up an account. They have both free and paid levels so you can get more services, obviously, and more variety if you have the paid account. But they have a free account that has tons of stuff, so you probably can get away with just having a free account once you start, and especially if you’re experimenting with it. Once you have your interview downloaded, you can repurpose it with Canva and create a bunch of assets from it to use on a variety of social media platforms.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:09] Two easy visuals you can create are something called an audiogram and something called a quote card. You can create an audiogram, which is a visual that also plays the audio from your interview. You can put your whole interview there or you can just grab a short clip. And number two, you can create a quote card, which is going through the transcript of your interview and pulling out some good thought leadership quotes and then popping them onto a templated quote card visual.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:36] If you’re having any trouble repurposing this content, please contact us at businessradiox.com. We can help you get the most out of that. That’s a service that we offer to a lot of our guests. We have also free and paid versions of that as well.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:54] So, first step, go to canva.com, set up an account, and play around over there. You’re going to have a lot of fun if you’re a visually oriented person. And you’re going to find lots and lots of ways to leverage that platform to help you kind of expand the assets you have from doing a podcast interview.

Empowering Businesses: The Vendorship Approach to Government Contracting

April 11, 2024 by angishields

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In this episode of High Velocity Radio, Dr. Nazeera Dawood, CEO of Vendorship, Inc, discusses her company’s role in helping businesses navigate government contracting. She shares her own frustrations with the RFP process and aims to educate and guide companies through the $600 billion industry. Vendorship assists with becoming a vendor, identifying opportunities, and submitting proposals, allowing businesses to focus on their expertise. Dr. Dawood celebrates client successes and the impact on women and minority owners, recognized by the Atlanta City Council. The company’s outreach includes newsletters, events, and word-of-mouth, emphasizing the sustainability of government contracts, particularly in tech.

Atlanta City Council recognized Dr. Nazeera Dawood, founder and CEO of Vendorship, Inc., for her outstanding contribution and service to the Greater Atlanta community in honor of Women’s History Month. A ceremony was held to celebrate and proclaim that March 7 is Dr. Nazeera Dawood Day. 

Nazeera-DawoodAfter a rewarding career as a medical doctor Dr. Nazeera Dawood’s passion for prevention prompted her to obtain a master’s degree in Public Health. During her 8 years in public service as Research Project Manger, Director of the Fulton County Health Department as well as Fulton County Chief of Staff and she developed an extensive knowledge of the (governmental) proposal process.

Nazeera has a passion for solutions- and results-driven strategies, with a focus on quality, cost-effectiveness, use of practice guidelines, evaluation, supportive collaborations and public private partnerships for the benefit of all. She currently serves on the Review Board of the inaugural Fulton County District Attorney Conviction Integrity Unit.

A serial entrepreneur she has a wide professional network in the public sector, in business and in no-profit work. Nazeera founded Vendorship to ease the entry into government contracting.

As Vendorship’s CHH (Chief of Client Happiness) she strives to deliver the custom program to government contracting opportunities our clients need to provide government agencies with high quality products and services that improve the work of the public sector and all of our citizens’ lives.

Follow Vendorship on LinkedIn.

See also this article by the LegalOn team in which Stone Payton joins the discussion on common contract-related business mistakes

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Intro: [00:00:04] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Atlanta, Georgia. It’s time for High Velocity Radio.

Stone Payton: [00:00:15] Welcome to the High Velocity Radio show, where we celebrate top performers producing better results in less time. Please join me in welcoming to the broadcast Founder and CEO with Vendorship Inc., Dr. Nazeera Dawood. How are you?

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:00:31] I’m great and thank you so much for having me today. Stone, it’s so good to speak to you and your audience.

Stone Payton: [00:00:38] Yeah, it’s a delight to have you on the program. I got a ton of questions. I know we’re not going to get to them all, but, uh, maybe let’s start with mission. Purpose. Tell us a little bit about Vendor Ship Inc and what you’re trying to do for folks.

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:00:51] Sure, definitely. So in order to talk about mentorship, I have to tell you a little bit, uh, about myself and why vendor ship was started. And, um, so I used to be a physician. I used to be an ob gyn in India delivering babies. And then after I came to us, I did my master’s in public health. And from there I moved to, uh, Emory University for a job. And then I got my dream job at the county government. Uh, it was at the health department. I loved my job. And, uh, after four years, I was promoted to being the chief of staff at the former chairman’s office at the board of commissioners. Okay, so during this time, uh, I would have a lot of interactions with community members, businesses, um, other partnerships with counties and states and in the federal level as well. What I noticed was small businesses or midsize businesses or even large businesses did not know how to do business with the government. And to give you a particular example, Stone, I was also responsible as my position at the Health Promotion Division Director at that time put out opportunities, um, for uh, contractors or firms to respond. So when I did put out such an RFP, there were two bidders. One, and this was a simple technology solution that we needed, and one person responded five minutes late. So the response was stunned. Their submission was nulled and the other person was did not qualify for some of the eligibility criteria.

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:02:32] So that was rejected as well. So ultimately my division ended up with zero responses after spending so much time, staff time, putting the RFP out, several discussions, interdepartmental, and then I didn’t have the solution that I really wanted. So that really frustrated me because it was taxpayers money as well. And I said, I know of so many businesses that could have responded and provided this solution that we needed. And when all the, uh, procedures were was done, I asked around a few firms on why they didn’t respond to the possibilities right in their backyard. They said there were several responses. One was they said they don’t know. They think, uh, it’s a slow process. They don’t trust the government. Or they said there’s no profitability. So they were giving all these reasons which I thought was a myth, and I knew it was sometimes a piece of cake to do business with the government. So when I, uh, got promoted to the chairman’s office, I also learned the ins and outs of what happened and how those decisions get made in choosing a contractor. And that’s when, when I resigned from the government, uh, position that I was in, uh, I saw the need, uh, where businesses need to be educated, uh, needed hand-holding, coaching and guidance in doing business with the government. And that’s when mentorship was initiated in 2018. I hope that answered your question. Well, it.

Stone Payton: [00:04:06] Does very elegantly and succinctly, but but that’s a lot of information to take in. I love that you found a need. You decided to try to fill it, but it occurs to me that there was and maybe there still is, just a tremendous amount of opportunity being left on the table out there, isn’t there?

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:04:26] And can you believe $600 billion industry and, uh, people usually have all these myths. So we, we, uh, we our team loves to educate and inform because we have to bust the myths out there. One such, such myth is that people think the contracts have already been decided, which is not true, and it’s a transparent, open process. Um, all you have to be is just be eligible, uh, to make sure that you’re able to provide that service that the government is asking. There’s no one that is that cannot work with the government. It’s just that they have to be in the playing field to play the game. Otherwise, they’re just going to be sitting on the fence and watching what’s happening out there. But a $600 billion industry combining federal, state, county, city and education and schools.

Stone Payton: [00:05:14] That is a sobering number. So how does a company know if they’re eligible or if they don’t know then they’re not eligible. And they better find out.

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:05:24] Exactly. So to be eligible all you need to have is a company. You have to have a company in existence. Uh, you should have you should be compliant. That is paying your taxes. And you should have a service to offer that the government needs. That’s all it takes for, uh, doing business with the government. So when you asked about eligibility, if you have a company, if you have a service to provide, and that’s a service that government needs. You can get into the playing field to do the business.

Stone Payton: [00:05:57] So, uh, walk us through, if you can, at least at a high level. How do you find out what the government needs and wants? Because. Because I’m one of these people you’re talking about. You know, I’m probably susceptible to all these myths I don’t have the first clue about to find out what they want. And, you know, for all I know, they may need something in the media area, I don’t know.

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:06:18] Oh, we see those marketing and media, uh, UI, UX opportunities available all the time. So, um, Stone, let me tell you. So think about it. 50 states, almost 20,000 cities, 5000 counties, right? 100,000 public schools, more than 5000 higher education centers. All these are independent government entities with opportunities available for any firms to respond. Right. Um, so the opportunities are existing. The opportunities that government puts out is technology, even services, janitorial, um, mowing. You know, lawn mowing needs, um, office supplies, media needs. They want managers to help them strategize training needs so services that you can imagine the city government, state government, county government everyone needs is that the firms business firms usually have. Uh, the thing is, you have to know where these opportunities are. You have to become probably a vendor depending on the opportunity, and then respond to this. So the process is a little bit complicated in the sense it’s not it’s not hard, but it there is a process to follow. And that’s what people get so uh, frustrated about because they just don’t know how much to try. And then they get frustrated. They go through these red flags and they leave and they say government is not for them. But if you see once the government contractor always a government contractor, right, because they see the benefits of doing business, getting paid for it, and they see the profitability as well. So people have to be aware that it is time consuming, sometimes paperwork. But then once it is done, uh, they’re they’ve laid the foundation. Well, then it’s much easier to get into to win the contracts.

Stone Payton: [00:08:16] So let’s talk about the work specifically with regard to what you and your team do. Do you educate? Do you actually actually help execute on some of this? What what does that look like?

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:08:27] Definitely. So let’s don’t let’s take it this way right with you. Uh, let’s say we are working with you and you’re a media company, right? And there is city of, uh, let’s say Petersburg. Right? Petersburg is looking for a media, uh, campaign and someone to run their campaign on smoke free areas or smoke free parks. Um, now they want to work with you because you are a media company. And, I mean, they know they put the opportunity out. Hey, we need some media person or a media company or a business firm to come and help us design this campaign and put the marketing out. So now you are working with us because you are working with us. We’ve already helped you coach. You build the documentation on what are your capabilities. We have your company’s profile business profile completely right. So once we have that, what we do is we, um, we bring the opportunity to you to say, hey, Stone, in St Petersburg, there’s this opportunity, and then we review this together and you say, this is a perfect opportunity. Our team will write the response for you. So we do proposal responses.

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:09:38] Not only did we identify the opportunity for you that is fitting and you’re eligible for it, but we also help you become a vendor. We do all the paperwork. We become your extended team because we don’t want you to get succumbed to all the supplemental, uh, the massive paperwork that is needed and get frustrated. So we let you focus on what you are good at, which is your niche area, which is campaign and marketing. Right. What we want to help you is identify the opportunity, right. The response, um, we give you the intelligence behind that entire RFP on why what what’s the estimated budget that they are looking for. And then we put the response because they are not a media company. Stone. So we would we would need that specific technical response from you. So we will put the entire proposal document and submit it, uh, for, for evaluation to the government. So that is we take up the 80% of the work. Uh, the 20% of the work is your niche area. So where you will be able to tell us, this is what I want to do for this proposal?

Stone Payton: [00:10:46] Well, I just love that. I love that we can stay in our lane, do this. You know, one thing that we feel like we do really well and then work. Work with best in class experts that understand the system, how to navigate the the obstacles. Well, now that you’ve been at this a while and helping people accomplish this, what’s the most rewarding? What’s the most fun about it for you?

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:11:08] So a stone. Believe it. Because we become your extended team. It’s like we, our our teams have joined, aligned together, and we gelled together for the entire one year that we are working together. We also have clients who work with us for continue to work with us in their fourth year, and our retention rate is renewal. Retention rate is 75%. So you can see people have felt this comfortability that they don’t need to go and build their own five member, six member team of proposal writers, marketing, business development directors or anyone. They just see that us coming in as the extended team. What have we felt good at is when our client wins, we all celebrate as a team, so it’s a huge win. We pat each other and that’s a huge affirmation for each one of us, because we know we put a hard work in submitting that proposal for the client to succeed.

Stone Payton: [00:12:00] Well, your work’s getting noticed. I understand you were recently recognized by the Atlanta City Council. Tell us a little bit about that. Sure.

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:12:09] Yes. Uh, so Council member Andrew Andrea Boone, um, sponsored, along with all the other council members, uh, to, uh, you know, appreciate, uh, women, minority business owner, uh, along with the mentorship team for all the good work that we are doing and also assisting not just the big firms or medium sized firms, but also assisting small firms, uh, to do business with the government. And apart from that, they also named uh, uh, March 7th as uh, my day like Doctor Nasir Dawood appreciation day.

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:12:47] Oh, yeah. For empowering more women to come into business and, you know, get into the entrepreneurial world.

Stone Payton: [00:12:53] So outside the government contracting world, when you were, uh, marketing to people like me, how does the whole sales and marketing thing work for you? How do you get to get your new clients?

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:13:06] Sure, several ways. We have multiple touch points. We do send out newsletters, we do attend events, uh, we do attend conferences. And, uh, all we have to say is, are you planning to expand and diversify your business, to expand your revenue? Right. And everyone wants to do that, especially, uh, the technology firms. If you see, there’s been like, uh, talks about recession in the past and business has been slow. So we tell them, like with government, there’s always a sustainability government is always looking for, um, uh, services, uh, from technology firms, especially after Covid, um, the digital transformation that is happening, you know, the cloud computing, uh, getting prepared, cybersecurity, if you notice, recent in our own counties in Georgia have been ransacked or ransomed. Um, so these are we just asked them, do you want to expand your revenue into a sustainable revenue generating model and diversify their business? And people get interested, and if they come when they know that we do 80% of the work, all they have to do is stay in their lane, provide their niche area expertise. They’re they’re open and welcome to listen to us. But our touchpoint is events, uh, meet people. Um, what I’m telling you now, like, I’m sure you have listeners who might be interested in government contracting. We, uh, word of mouth. We have a lot of testimonials. Clients who work in the past who continue to give us testimonials, and someone who’s worked with us always have a good thing. Have to say.

Stone Payton: [00:14:43] Doing great work is a marvelous sales tool, isn’t it?

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:14:46] Yes.

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:14:48] So we realized, yes.

Stone Payton: [00:14:49] So it strikes me, and this may or may not be the case that that once you get that first one, even if it’s a relatively small government contract, now you got a little bit of track record under you. In the next one comes a little easier. Is that accurate?

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:15:04] Uh, so, um, here’s I can give you two scenarios. Many cases can be it can be any case. Right. Basically you want even a single SEO firm to do business with the government. Right. And how do they do it? So what we do is we coach them to build their paperwork and documentation and, and and the company profile well documented if they need any certifications like minority or women owned or even the federal level, it is called GSA. And I don’t want to throw so many acronyms there at a program. We assist them through that entire process. Right. And certification is not begin all, end all. It is I would call it as a brownie point, right? It adds it adds few points, but doesn’t mean if you don’t have a certification, you’re not going to be in a contract. All you have to because this is you’re the you’re opening the window to the reviewers who don’t know anything about you or your company, and they’re just reading your documentation to say whether you’re a fit company to work with them or not. So it has to be very strong. Why are you unique? Why are you selling this service? How can you respond to what the government is asking? So for that you have your information has to be very, um, readable or presentable and executable and your pricing, you know, so all these, all these makes a difference because those who are reviewing are not in your field. All they know is the story that you’re telling them why you started the company, what can you do for them, and how long you can take to do for them. It’s going to help them decide whether you are the best fit for them, but for that you have to continue to play the game.

Stone Payton: [00:16:44] I can see so many ways where your council would impact this process, or even make it a plausible dream for a company like ours. Everything from how to price it, how to articulate it, how to find out where the opportunities are. And, you know, maybe there may be certifications that would serve us well. And you’re tapped into that world, too. In fact, I don’t think I’m talking out of school. Before we came on air, you had to field a call from, uh, Greater Women’s Business Council, right? Like, so you’re you’re tapped into that certification world. So, you know, if it’s something to pursue or. Yeah.

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:17:19] Definitely. And like I said, one of the examples I wanted to give was one company that just opened zero days old, but came with great capabilities within their team members. They worked with us within a within a year they were able to back two projects. So what you talked about track record, you have to start somewhere to set that track.

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:17:41] Right.

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:17:41] You can’t you can’t keep saying, I don’t have a track record, so I can’t be in business. So there are several strategies that you can follow to establish that track record. That’s when mentorship comes in to strategize with you, to build that strong foundation for many more years in the government sector.

Stone Payton: [00:17:56] Okay.

Stone Payton: [00:17:57] So let’s kind of go back to the work. And I’m particularly interested in the front end of the work. Someone listens to this conversation or meet you at one of these events and they at least want to explore is like, is the early step just sitting down with them and learning a little bit about what they’re trying to accomplish and the kind of work they might be capable of delivering? Well, walk us through kind of the front end of the engagement, if that’s the right word.

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:18:20] So let’s say Stone, you are interested in learning more, right? Um, uh, what I would do is I would ask you to visit our website, which is w w w dot vendor ship dot net. That’s vendor ship, vendor ship dot net. And there are several pages with contact us. All you have to do is fill the form up. We will get the inquiry. Our team will reach out to you to schedule an intro call. Um, that intro call can be half an hour because we are exploring and discovering we’ve had we have had, uh, calls where we say, hey, your services. We don’t see anywhere government requiring your services. Right. So we would have that intro call with you to see what is it that you offer. We would tell you, hey, we’ve seen almost a thousand opportunities across us, uh, for what you need or for what government needs from you. If you if you plan to get into government sector. And then we would have that intro call and then provide you with the next steps.

Stone Payton: [00:19:18] I absolutely love it. All right. What’s the best way for people to connect with you? I think you may have just shared it. Tap into your work. Have that conversation. I just want to make sure that they have that we give them easy access to talk to you guys.

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:19:32] Definitely. We do have a number, uh, (404) 982-4070. We have a great sales team members who will pick up the phone and talk to you and schedule that call. They can also email us at info. Info. Info at vendor ship dot net.

Stone Payton: [00:19:52] Well, Nazir, it has been an absolute delight having you on the show. You’re doing such important work. I appreciate you sharing your insight and your perspective. Thank you so much for joining us this afternoon.

Dr. Nazeera Dawood: [00:20:06] Thank you so much, Stone, for having us. If anyone is looking for that government contracting, our motto is remake Government contracting. Easy and don’t miss out your piece of the pie. So what I would say.

Speaker4: [00:20:17] Don’t I.

Stone Payton: [00:20:18] Love it? All right, until next time. This is Stone Payton for our guest today, Doctor Nazir Dawood with Vendor Ship Inc and everyone here at the Business RadioX family saying we’ll see you in the fast lane.

 

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