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Matt Mallory with The Mallory Agency

September 2, 2022 by angishields

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Matt-Mallory-The-Mallory-AgencyMatt Mallory is the CEO of The Mallory Agency, a leading property and casualty insurance broker serving clients in the United States and beyond. Matt primarily partners with larger companies and organizations on their insurance needs.

He has been published in Insurance Journal, Forbes, and Restaurant and Retail Business Magazine. He has spoken to organizations such as the Claims and Litigation Management Society and is a faculty speaker for the Institute of WorkComp Professionals.

Matt holds a BFA in Communications from Valdosta State University and completed Harvard Business School’s Risk Management for Corporate Leaders program.

Connect with Matt on LinkedIn.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

  • Business leadership
  • Liability insurance and the importance of educating the hospitality industry about their coverage options
  • Trade name restoration

This transcript is machine transcribed by Sonix 

TRANSCRIPT

Intro: [00:00:04] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Atlanta, Georgia. It’s time for High Velocity Radio.

Stone Payton: [00:00:15] Welcome to High Velocity Radio, where we celebrate top performers producing better results in less time. Stone Payton here with you this afternoon. Please join me in welcoming to the broadcast with the Mallory Agency, the man himself, the CEO, Mr. Matt Mallory. How are you doing, man?

Matt Mallory: [00:00:35] Hey, Stone, great to be here. Thanks so much for the opportunity.

Stone Payton: [00:00:39] Oh, it’s my pleasure, man. I’ve been looking forward to this conversation. Got a ton of questions. Probably not going to get to them all, but maybe a good place to start is just a little bit of an overview mission purpose. What are you and your team out there trying to do for folks?

Matt Mallory: [00:00:54] Man Of course. Great question. Yeah. Mallory Agency, we are in our fourth generation. I get to be the fourth generation of CEOs have come through this lineage. We are a 115 year old property and casualty privately held insurance broker serving clients coast to coast and overseas. And and so we’re really changing the nature of the client broker relationship. And the reason that we are different is because we make a difference and we really treat clients their entire insurance program as a living, breathing entity, which has been missing for a long time in our industry.

Stone Payton: [00:01:32] Do you guys focus on a handful of specific industries or types of companies more than others?

Matt Mallory: [00:01:40] Certainly do. I think years ago my dad, if he was still with us, he would be 69 next week. And as a boomer, you know, he was brought up in the generation of just anything and everything, right? Be a generalist, never say no to new business. And our mentality and our path is changed a little bit and I think quite for the better to being more specialist, expert and niche driven. So we have deep expertise within industries such as restaurants, real estate, construction, technology. And then if you really unpack property and casualty and coverage wise, we have been wildly successful in advising really great clients under coverages such as worker’s compensation and high value property. And and with that success, we want to repeat it right and repeat it in a grand way.

Stone Payton: [00:02:35] So let’s roll the clock back a little bit. When you decided to go into the the family business, was it a tough decision or was this something you knew really early on that that’s that was going to be your path?

Matt Mallory: [00:02:49] Well, spoiler alert. I never wanted to be here. I, I certainly did not grow up when I was a ten year old boy. And all the kids are talking about being, you know, a professional athlete. I never said, well, I can’t wait to be an insurance producer or insurance CEO. No, sir, that was not me. I came into this business kind of kicking and screaming and bull canter. I came into the business unemployed. So I realized I had a pretty good childhood growing up, and I came in not having a clue what insurance was or even could spell it. And my heart really wasn’t in it. And I had to understand and learn really quick to be humble and learn and listen and pay your dues and earn your stripes. And now, 15 years later, I cannot imagine doing anything else.

Stone Payton: [00:03:35] Well, you’re clearly enjoying it. I mean, I can hear it in your voice. What? What do you enjoy the most, man? What’s the most rewarding about the work?

Matt Mallory: [00:03:45] I love so much connecting with great business leaders, great executives that are just smart, well connected, good leaders, great financial minds. And being the guy that can be there, shoulder to shoulder with them and help their company be more profitable, protect their company. A lot of these companies that we are so fortunate to get to partner with are really on the way up. They’re growing and we call it the hockey stick phase, right? They are growing maybe sometimes at rapid pace. And to be on that ride with them and to make sure they are protected and that we are we are helping their economics and helping them move the needle in a positive way. It’s so fulfilling to be able to do that and to be a part of that. That’s just a that’s a feather in the cap. That’s a win for us.

Stone Payton: [00:04:35] So how does the whole sales and marketing thing work for a company like yours? Like, how do you get an opportunity to to have a substantive conversation and get a shot at writing and writing the business with folks?

Matt Mallory: [00:04:52] Yeah, another great question. Thanks. We we are intentional on who we want to connect with. So I tell our team quite often the best clients you want to partner with and really be an advisor and a trusted partner. That’s what that’s the language. That’s the buzzword of our industry. Right? Everybody wants to be a trusted partner or an advisor. Hmm. Well, to do that, you’ve got to be in the client’s circle. You have to be in his or her fraternity or trusted network. So we have to find out how to get in there. We have to find out who those people that he or she, the client, trust and leans on. And once we get an opportunity to be in those circles, we want to make sure that we that we perform, that our output as a deliverable to the client is nothing short of excellence and we can get to that level really. Stone is less about selling insurance and it’s more making sure that we can advise accurately and very with great relevance what the client needs from protecting themselves on the risk. If we’re doing that, we’re doing our job successfully and it’s a great day.

Stone Payton: [00:06:01] Well, I have been on the line with you for like 6 minutes now, and I have no doubt there is absolutely zero doubt in my mind that you can do all of what you just described in spades. But to pull it off, you’ve got to have a solid team. Would love to get your perspective on on recruiting, selecting, developing the team. That’s going to also live into all of those things you were just talking about.

Matt Mallory: [00:06:26] And how hard it is to find the great people. I think the challenge right now that everybody is experiencing, of course, is talent for our industry. What is so arguably unique is there’s nothing tangible. So we have to find people that are very good at communicating and articulating the value of something intangible. We can teach insurance and risk to just about anybody, but that’s not who we’re looking for. We’re looking for just like on the client side. We want people. We want clients and partners with great financial minds, good business leaders, deep business and financial acumen. We want that with our team, people that understand how our clients operate. We want our team to have great business acumen, financial literacy, self driven, very ambitious. They want to become better people personally and professionally. When we can find those, those individuals, we really want to be intentional on bringing them on our team and showing them the value of who we are and how we’re making a difference. Because it’s just so easy to hire just anyone in everybody but anybody. And everybody is not a great fit for who we want our client to be associated with.

Stone Payton: [00:07:39] And it strikes me that your your work involves a lot of education. I mean, you need and want to work with a well informed client. So you must you must invest a great deal of energy in in helping these people understand what they need to know to to get the right kinds of coverage and things that they probably are not even on their radar. Yeah.

Matt Mallory: [00:08:06] Yeah. Well said. I’ll hire you tomorrow. Great way to say it. We. We are very focused on being prepared for the unknown. Being proactive, removing any kind of barriers that a client may feel, even if it’s not actually there. We have to remember on our side, on the broker side, is if we think something is important, relevant of great value. But the client doesn’t either. We haven’t communicated that value clearly or the value is, quite frankly, doesn’t exist. So we have to understand what’s important to the client. It’s a bit of a crystal ball and a prophetic mission of wanting to get the telescope out and look down the line and think what’s coming next, what even could be. And we presume a little bit about what the client is looking for in meeting. Try and advise that if we can do that effectively and bring in value. Then again, like we discussed earlier that the insurance is kind of a secondary topic. The first topic is let’s prepare your business for greatness.

Stone Payton: [00:09:14] All right. So let’s paint the picture a little bit. As I understand it, one of the areas that you do have quite a track record in, in a great deal of specialized knowledge and expertise and is serving the the hospitality industry. And I don’t know the first thing about it, except I love to stay at nice hotels and nice restaurants. But for the case of this conversation, let’s say that my business partner and I, rather than than run a network, we’re going to we’re going to open a restaurant or a couple of restaurants. And so we we come to you. What does that process look like? Can you kind of walk us through the the early stages of that relationship? And the in my language, I come from the training consulting world. I would call it an engagement. Right. But can you kind of paint the picture for us? What happens next?

Matt Mallory: [00:10:07] What a fantastic word to use. I love it. I think I’m going to borrow that stone. I love the term engagement. We don’t use that term enough. Absolutely. We meet with someone. It really is a exploratory discussion of just wanting to learn more about them. It’s not about us yet. It’s just about them because we have to learn if we’re even a fit. And we’re very quick to tell the client if we’re not one because we don’t want to. We if we advise and we show value, the value has to be mutually seen. If we can’t show value, then we need to move on and in a cordial way, part ways. So we want to find out if we’re fit. We asking a lot of questions about the business from what exactly the profile of said restaurant is. And you’re right, we have great expertise in depth in restaurants currently with our restaurant practice, which I lead is a national practice. We’ve got clients in almost every state within the continental U.S. and we’re very proud of that. Most of those restaurants are on the non franchise side right now, but we’re very, very proud of what we’ve been able to achieve within our practice group and we ask a lot of great questions to these business leaders.

Matt Mallory: [00:11:13] Tell us about your restaurant. How does it look right now? What’s the profile? Where do you want it to go? Where do you expect it to go? Tell us about your team, how your team operates, how it functions. So we try and keep a peer to peer a little bit more of a of an intellectual and business acumen discussion with them. And then we can unpack a little bit more and go deeper on the risk side. But a lot of the questions that we ask, the answers that we receive from the clients, give us insight. As we move along this path, we tend to use the term assessment. We want to assess what’s going on with the client to really determine if we’re going to be a great fit and if we can if we can offer value to them and if we can, then it usually ends up being a great partnership.

Stone Payton: [00:11:55] So do restaurant owners typically come in and feel at least like they know what types of coverages they need and want? And if so, do you sometimes have to tell them? Well, yeah, maybe, but maybe not so much over here. And there’s this whole other thing that you really ought to think about, like. Well, I mean, I don’t even know. I guess if somebody slips and falls, that makes sense to me. But there’s probably a lot more than that that you should be covered for if you’re if you’re running a restaurant. Right.

Matt Mallory: [00:12:29] Yeah, absolutely. You know, just like every industry, unfortunately, within the property and casualty insurance industry, you’ve got some bad actors and we’ve also have some some individuals that kind of have forgotten the term professional and they’re just it’s a bit more amateur play on how they advise. So you have those moments where you see the client’s insurance program that has just not really been advised correctly and accurately and hasn’t really been proactive or operating efficiently. But to give some of my peers the credit, that credit is due, some of these programs are put together quite well. That could be put together a little bit better. But you always have the discussion with them of. This is how the industry looks. And we look at the industry from a two perspective. We look at the industry of being a restaurant industry from these are the current ebbs and flows of what we look at in restaurants, how restaurants are performing on a more global scale, global stage, and also kind of macro wise in your own market. Because remember, some of these discussions we have are maybe geographically based on coastal property versus inland. Maybe it is restaurants that are in a very high or rather very dense urban downtown city kind of area where there could be some crime issues. Maybe there is a maybe it’s the type of food they’re serving. And there could be a potential for a foodborne outbreak type scenario depending on what’s going on with a type of food from supply chain. There are so many different little avenues of what about this? And all we do is engage with the client, ask them what they’re doing about it right now to build it, advise them better later. So a lot of those different conversations that we bring in some insurance questions that may be a little bit cross-eyed feeling, but we have to make sure the client knows because of worst case. The worst thing possible is for us to know something and fail to advise or ask the client about it.

Stone Payton: [00:14:35] Okay. So let’s zoom out a little bit and talk about just this whole idea of leading a business in general. We touched on, you know, this whole idea of getting good people and identifying those folks. Let’s talk a little bit more about development and culture. What kinds of things have you learned to do? And I don’t know, maybe you’ve even made a mistake or two along the way you might be willing to share, but to to to create a culture that allows you and yours to to serve in this way and do it consistently. Have you learned a few things that, you know, if you were going to write a book, it would be, you know, here’s some dos, here’s some don’ts and just leading a business.

Matt Mallory: [00:15:19] Boy, have I ever. Four years ago, I took over the position of CEO. Quick historical context. My dad named Rick Mallory was third generation. He died unexpectedly in 2018. Our perpetuation plan was for, excuse me, five years when he turned 70 and I turned 40 and I’ll be 40 next year, he was going to hand over the role of CEO to me. So I started leading and took over a company I had no way to prepare for. Arrogantly, I thought that I was ready back then, and realistically and actually looking back, I was I had no idea. And full candor. In 2018, I could not even read my own pal. And I had to have basically a crash course in financial literacy, really with my CFO of how to do that. We changed language in the office from in our company, from the Met runs or owns or anything like that. I get the opportunity to lead people. If you’re going to leave people, you have to be a leader and you have to understand what that means and humble yourself and know what it means to be a leader, which means being able to lean into wise counsel. Most every one of my leadership team has been doing this longer than me, which is a fantastic place to be. I get to lean on great people, great financial literacy, great business acumen, and they have full knowledge and full welcoming for me to call me out when I am not being the leader that I’m expected to be. As far as how we empower people. Our culture is very, very centric on we invest in you team member. We don’t call anyone an employee. We don’t call anyone on staff.

Matt Mallory: [00:16:59] We want to find great team members. I tell everybody in their onboarding, we are intentional on how we are going to invest in you through compensation, through empowerment, through trust. We expect that that investment to be reciprocated. We invest in you. We expect you to invest back in us. What does that mean? That means you come in every day and give us your best. You want to become better in every category of the word, but we’re going to empower you to give you that opportunity through advancement and title, pay, responsibility, trust, etc. We expect you to want to become better and we expect you to call each other out on your team and empower your team and have that trust with your team and that encouragement of We’re going to become better because I’ve given everybody the path of where this company is going to go and I have full intention and whatever it is, in five or ten years when we achieve some of the results I expect us to achieve when we achieve that, not. Matt Mallory This is not this is not the Matt Mallory show. When we achieve that, I’m then turn around to our team and I’m going to say, Wow, look what we did together. That is our mission. It’s not on a wall, it’s not formally written down. But that is our path is that we’re going to find great people, empower them, invest in them. We ask they invest back into us so that when we achieve exceptional goals that maybe some people didn’t think we were even capable of, we’re going to look at each other and say, look what we did together.

Stone Payton: [00:18:32] Well, I got to say, man, your passion shines through. I can see how it would impact everyone around you. And in the same breath. This is not my first rodeo. You’re human. Sometimes you just. You got to recharge, man. Where do you go? And I don’t necessarily mean a physical place, but where do you go for for inspiration and to recharge the the batteries, whether it’s reading or a place or an activity? Where do you go?

Matt Mallory: [00:19:05] Yeah, I mind, body, spirit. Right. Got to stay healthy. You got to stay centered. I’m a big believer that readers are leaders. I try and consume positive, enriching content, and that can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. For me, I’m a man of faith. I’m a Christian. I start my morning in prayer and try and get inspiration and encouragement and and guidance and direction from from the Scripture. That’s how I started in my days. I’m a morning person. I enjoy getting up and having that time just to be centered and get prepared. Whether I think it’s going to be a great day or there’s going to be some challenging conversations I have to have, I need guidance with that, and I need to come and start my day with a very humbled heart and spirit and and figure out how to do that and be effective. My team expects that from me and I need to show them what that looks like. Outside of that, I’m a big believer. Break a sweat once a day. I love to play tennis with my kids. I love to be on a road bike. I’ve got a rower at home I bought from Hydro. What a fun thing to have. I’m a big believer, even if it’s 5 minutes. Break a sweat, get your heart pumping. And that’s a great way to be good to yourself and a little bit of self-care. So those are just a few things I believe in. I wish I was more consistent, I should be. But I think that as long as you’re focused on it and you’re attempting, that’s a good day.

Stone Payton: [00:20:31] All right, man. Before we wrap, let’s make sure that we that we leave our listeners with a few actionable items. I’ll call them pro tips. Right. The things that they ought to be thinking about, things they questions, maybe they should be asking things they ought to be looking for when engaging someone to help them with getting the right kind of of coverage. Number one pro tip is reach out and talk to Matt or somebody on his team. But but but maybe, you know, someone’s listening to this and and there’s some things that maybe they ought to jot down or go read a little bit about. Let’s leave him with a few people. I’m going to call them pro steps.

Matt Mallory: [00:21:12] I would start by looking at how proactive a firm is, how diligent they are in the industry. And I don’t mean insurance. I mean the clients industry. What’s the track record? What’s the proven, demonstrated client deliverable track record? How much experience have you had and what kind of results have you had? What’s the expertise? What kind of team do I have that will be proactive and partnering and serving with me? Client Those are some things I start with. In fact, every client we engage with, I can come with them at full conviction and confidence of. This is the kind of team we have that serves peers just like yours all over. These are the kind of results. This is the client deliverable and output that we are very, very proud of because we have worked very hard to make sure that we can be at this level. Those are some of the questions I would tell anyone that wants to engage, whether it’s my firm, especially even thinking about looking at a new broker of record, of what kind of what’s the transition and what is the expectation I should have from you? And then we just we roll it out to them.

Stone Payton: [00:22:28] Fantastic. All right. Where can our listeners connect with you? The best way for them to reach out and have a conversation with you or someone on your team, whatever you feel like is appropriate, whether it’s website, email, LinkedIn, I just want to make sure that they have an easy path to to connect.

Matt Mallory: [00:22:46] Of course, love connecting with new people. Linkedin, of course, is a great way. Also, you can email me. I’m fine with people emailing me and I can give that out publicly right now. Matt M Matt team at Mallory, Agent SI.com. Like everybody else, my phone is on me from dawn to dusk as well as looking at emails. So happy to connect with people and and maybe offer any kind of guidance, whether it’s on insurance and advising on insurance or some of my aches and pains and a few successes I’ve had from leading a company full of great people.

Stone Payton: [00:23:23] What a pleasure. Matt, thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. It’s it’s marvelous to have a conversation with someone who is so dedicated to serving their market and is clearly committed to developing their people and giving them at least a path to purpose and fulfillment. This is what a marvelous way to invest a Thursday afternoon. Thank you for for hanging out with us, man.

Matt Mallory: [00:23:52] It’s been so much fun. Thank you for the invitation.

Stone Payton: [00:23:55] My pleasure. All right. Until next time, this is Stone Payton for our guest today, CEO of the Mallory Agency, Matt Mallory, and everyone here at the Business RadioX family saying we’ll see you in the fast lane.

 

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Author Michael McCathren

September 2, 2022 by angishields

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Michael-McCathren-headshotMichael McCathren, best-selling author of ‘6 Ps of Essential Innovation,’ is a strategic innovation expert who has spent more than 30 years leading efforts across operations, supply chain, finance, strategic planning, and marketing.

Currently, he oversees Enterprise Innovation in the Innovation & New Ventures group at Chick-fil-A where he and his team are responsible for helping the organization transform its ideas into business value.

Outside his work with Chick-fil-A, he is an adjunct professor of Innovation Management for the Terry College of Business at the University of Georgia. Michael holds a Master of Science in Innovation from Northeastern University. He’s deeply devoted to his faith and family, and enjoys seeing the world on his motorcycle or camping with his wife, Dena.

Connect with Michael on LinkedIn and Facebook.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

  • About Michael’s experience as an entrepreneur
  • How his journey in corporate America helped shape his book
  • Why he chose to write the book
  • How listeners can get the book

This transcript is machine transcribed by Sonix 

TRANSCRIPT

Intro: [00:00:04] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Atlanta, Georgia. It’s time for High Velocity Radio.

Stone Payton: [00:00:15] Welcome to High Velocity Radio, where we celebrate top performers producing better results in less time. Stone Payton here with you this afternoon. Please join me in welcoming to the broadcast, author of the best selling book six PS of a central innovation. Mr. Michael McCathren. Good afternoon, sir.

Michael McCathren: [00:00:35] Thanks for having me. Good to be here.

Stone Payton: [00:00:37] Oh, man. We’re so happy to have you on the show. Look forward to diving into this book and learning a little bit more about it. But before we go, there, would love to hear a little bit about your journey here. As I understand it, you have a day job with an organization some of our listeners may recognize. We’d love to hear a little bit about that and perhaps how maybe that’s influenced your decision that compelled you to commit some of these ideas to paper and put this book out?

Michael McCathren: [00:01:08] Yeah, man, I think I’ve got the best job in the world. I’m on a team called Enterprise Innovation with Chick fil A, and we are like an in-house consultancy to help project teams move through our five step innovation process as fast and efficiently as possible. And it’s just a dream job. Every day is new and we feel like we’re able to add value to project teams that ultimately customers get to experience. Sometimes it’s all internal processes that need a little bit of innovation, but ultimately it’s to serve our awesome community of operators who are making a difference in our restaurants every single day.

Stone Payton: [00:01:49] Well, it must be incredibly rewarding work, man.

Michael McCathren: [00:01:56] You know, I’ve got this. I think I’ve got this teacher Gene in me and and helping people realize their potential beyond what they thought was possible. It’s the same thing. I think I get jazzed about talking about projects just like, Hey, what if your project could be 110% towards the solution achieving results? You didn’t even think you could get faster than you thought you could get them. I get pumped. I get pumped about it. And luckily I work for an organization. Like you said, it’s a we have a decentralized model of innovation so that even the newest staff member, even entry level accounting analyst, one hopefully feel equipped, almost obligated to think innovatively about their role and about their work. That innovation here is not just something we do. It’s really how we think about what we do. And we’re so dedicated to it that one of our core values is we pursue what’s next. So that kind of gives us validity as we have these discussions with internal teams, how are you pursuing what’s next? And we can help expedite how they do that and hopefully raise the level of output.

Stone Payton: [00:03:09] So I’d love to hear a little bit about your experience in writing the book. Did some parts of it come a little easier than others?

Michael McCathren: [00:03:18] I mean, that’s a great question. Stone You know, in the early stages, it’s just about collecting things I thought were meaningful to me. But as time went on and I began to sort of share them here at Chick-Fil-A, and then as I gathered more information and experience and and feedback on these ideas with the students I teach at the College of Business in their professional MBA program, I started realizing, you know, these challenges that we’re all facing as corporate innovators are pretty much the same no matter what size company you’re from or what type of industry you’re from. And, you know, I got my master’s in innovation from Northeastern during COVID, and it just sort of that that helped me organize my thoughts into these six PS And then yeah, I mean, I’m super proud of it. It was a it was a mess to begin with, let me tell you. It was a mess. It didn’t make any sense at all. It just felt like just rambling on some business paper. But once it once I finally got it down to six PS, I felt like, Hey, I think these are digestible. And it just so happened they fell into place like the first three PS have to do with culture. So we’re talking about perception is one, people is another and philosophy is the third one and then the next three. Ps having to do with process and place and permanence are more like capabilities. So it’s a guidebook, hopefully, that readers will find helpful as a field guide that walks them through. Hey, what do I have to have in order for my innovation capabilities to stick and be permanent? And that was a big learning for me as I realized that the. In any kind of organization, no matter if it’s profit, non profit, the application of innovation capabilities is actually the easier part. It’s the culture is your culture and actually an innovation culture that’s even ready to accept innovation capabilities.

Stone Payton: [00:05:21] I love that you frame it as a as a field guide because that gives me the sense that it’s it’s something much more that I can put into action. And maybe I don’t even have to wait to read the whole thing before I start putting some things into action. Can you say more about that and maybe describe the structure of the book a little bit?

Michael McCathren: [00:05:40] You bet, yeah. Right off the bat, in chapter one, we talk about the first P perspective. There’s a free online innovation perception assessment that you can take at essential innovation, and it’s across four pillars. So this gives you an idea of what you, as well as the most important people within your organization, believe about, hey, when it comes to innovation, what what’s true about my senior leadership? What’s true about me as a staff member? Do I feel equipped? Do I have time? Is there a safe space and so on? Where does how would I rank our organizational culture in terms of how strong or weak it is in terms of innovation, culture, and then is it permanent? Is this sustainable? Do we have training and education and engagements and events that continue to help the organization become stronger and stronger over time in its practice of innovation? That’s right off the bat. That’s just like chapter one. You could do this and it points to the gaps that you have in any particular pillar. So then the rest of the book helps you address any of these gaps that you may have. So you’re right. You can go right into chapter two and talk about people and talk about, hey, what are some of the behaviors that someone who leads with an innovation mindset, what does that even look like? So we talk about humility and trust and how those two key fundamental parts of a good leadership practice actually is a little bit redefined through leading with an innovation mindset. For example, everybody knows what humility is, right? We’ve we’ve read the books or the podcast. We’ve read the papers.

Michael McCathren: [00:07:28] We’ve been taught what humility is and how fundamental it is to good leadership. However, through the lens of leading with an innovation mindset, an enhancement to traditional definitions is that we allow others to influence our thinking. So it’s a it’s a little counterintuitive because none of us are where we are in our professional lives because we completely allowed others to influence our thinking. We had to be the idea guy or the idea girl. We had to come up with the plans ourselves because we wanted our name at the bottom of the page. So we get credit so that we’d get promoted and up the ladder we go, Well, leaders of the future, though, realize that that model is a little bit broken because competition is moving to swiftly. Technology is changing too rapidly, consumer preferences and behaviors are changing too rapidly. Business is becoming too complex for me to think I am qualified to even have the right answer every single time. So they have to open it up and lead to an innovation mindset and say, You know what, I’m going to allow others to influence my thinking. And we talk about, well, if that’s the case, then who the others are becomes a really critical choice. And so we walk them through that same thing with trust. There are four trust behaviors that we talk about in the book, and you can begin those trust behaviors tomorrow. So yeah, I hope I hope it is a field guide that you can begin implementing the things that are discussed in the book in every single chapter you can. You could do it tomorrow.

Stone Payton: [00:09:04] Well, okay. So the full title is six P’s of a Central Innovation Create the culture and capabilities of a resilient innovation organization. I’ve got to say, I’ve heard both of those words a lot in my career and in the interviews that I’ve conducted, resilient and innovation. I don’t know that I’ve seen them paired together. Can you can you speak to that a little bit, that idea of resilient innovation?

Michael McCathren: [00:09:27] Yeah. Okay. So this hit me sideways when I read the Deloitte 2021 Global Resilience Report. They talk to over 2000 C CXOs from 21 different countries. And they were discussing, hey, how well prepared did you feel you were going into 2020? And then after that, the disruption of the pandemic? They went back and said that you’ve got a few months under your belt through this disruption. How well now do you feel like you as a leader and. As an organization, we’re prepared. And there were some themes that jumped out at me that they pointed out as like the attributes of a resilient organization. And one of them was prepared. Another one was adaptable and another one was collaborative and another one was trustworthy. And I started chewing on this a little bit. I’m like, You know what? To me, it’s almost like an equation that a resilient organization is one that is prepared. And prepared then is the equation of adaptable plus collaborative plus trustworthy. And then it dawned on me, Oh my gosh, this is the recipe for innovation. It’s a recipe for creating an innovation organization. So that’s kind of where that comes together.

Stone Payton: [00:10:51] Yeah. I won’t ask you to do an audio book here, but but I would love for you to you mentioned a couple of the PS two or three of the PS. Walk us through the other three or four, if you would, and just, you know, maybe give us a couple of sentences on it so that we. So we’ve got the full picture of this thing.

Michael McCathren: [00:11:08] Yeah, sure. So yeah, we covered perception. People recovered a little bit to but it gets down to the leaders of the organization have to model innovative thinking behaviors. So that’s what that’s about. And by the way, I said the leaders of the organization, I personally don’t think that there’s any such thing as an innovative organization. To me, what I’ve experienced is that it is it’s how strong the culture of innovation is at the department in sub department levels that collectively determine whether an organization is truly an innovation organization. And let me just park it here for just a second and let me point out that you’ve heard me use the word innovation organization and not innovative organization. And here’s why. It’s a it’s an important distinction, I think, because innovative organizations can point to either a product typically or a season where they were they did some innovative things or a leader came on board and he or she was an innovative leader and did some innovative things. But oftentimes in those organizations, when that season is over or when that innovative leader leaves, then so does innovation. So innovative is more like what you do. Innovation can be who you are as an organization, and it could be at the sub department level. So that’s why it’s important that leaders, even at the sub department particularly know the leadership behaviors and can model these innovation leadership behaviors.

Michael McCathren: [00:12:45] The third piece is about philosophy. Where does the actual existence of innovation sit within the organization? So we’re talking about structure. Does it have a seat at the planning table? How involved is it in strategic decisions? We talk about common language. We talk about how are we going to stand a capability up through training and we start identifying how we’re going to frame this up in terms of how do we want the culture of innovation, how do we want it to be discussed, and how deep is it in our core values? For example, like I said about it, is part of our core values under we pursue what’s next. So for any organization, that is the chapter under philosophy where they’ve got to wrestle this stuff down. The next one is process and your Google innovation process and you’re going to get thousands of results. And even with the students in the professional MBA program, they come from many times global companies and all of their companies have very different innovation processes or interestingly enough, no process whatsoever. So process is a dime a dozen. However, what I try to do is emphasize the audience as the as the nucleus and divide it into four parts. And I also layer on thinking types for each of the four parts. And then that mental model of how do we need to approach each one before we go on to the next one? So it’s a little I hope people find it a little bit more robust than just the typical the process.

Michael McCathren: [00:14:21] And then we talk about place. And I got to tell you, nothing says more about an organization’s commitment to innovation than the lack of a space. So there’s been studies done where we are trapped by the cues of just getting our work done, that until we are able to eliminate those cues, the creative problem solving self that resides in all of us can’t speak and can’t thrive. So there’s got to be a place, even if it’s just a part of a meeting room from time to time that eliminates these cues of our daily grind, opens up our thinking, frees our vision. And allows that creative problem solving self to really, really flourish. So that’s a place in the final one is permanent. So that’s where we talk about, hey, how do we continue to equip and inspire our organization from the folks who have been here a long time to the folks who just joined us yesterday. We in a decentralized model of innovation, you want to create that army of everyday innovators that transcends any particular leader. So when they leave, that is still a rich garden that produces fruit in terms of innovation for years to come.

Stone Payton: [00:15:37] All right. Let’s talk about me for a minute. You know, it is my show. No, I almost reached no, I almost reached out to you the other day because I knew we were going to have this this interview. I run an organization, me and my business partner run the business radio network. And we have this kind of federation of people who run these studios. And part of we’re blessed in a lot of ways, one of which is someone in another market like Phenix will trip over something or have an idea and bring it to the and bring it to the collective. And my question is, how do you create the culture, create the environment where when people share ideas and then for whatever reason, you’re just you’re not going to implement the idea. It was a great idea. You’re delighted to have them submit it, but so that they don’t feel like they’re shut down and they won’t come back with another idea next time. Because that really concerns me whenever we choose not to implement an idea from someone because I want them to keep contributing.

Michael McCathren: [00:16:36] Yeah. Oh, my gosh. This is so good. All right. So one of the leadership behaviors are trust behaviors specifically is that when someone on my team or in your case like a partner, when someone on my team presents an idea that they can trust, that I will always respond to their idea with questions in that statements. So I give examples about 20 questions or more in the book that leaders can ask their team members who come up with questions and these with ideas, these ideas whether they’re like so off track, they’re so off strategy, they’re way off base. That will always be, but they will always be met with questions. Now, this does a couple of things. If I’m that team member and I submit an idea or I share an idea with my boss and that boss asks me a bunch of questions about it, the first thing it does is it lowers my vulnerability because he or she has actually shown genuine interest in my idea. They don’t have to say whether they like it or not. That’s not the point. They’re just interested in. Hey, how did you come up with this idea? What problem does it solve? For whom does this problem exist? Have you talked to other people about this problem? And on and on and on.

Michael McCathren: [00:17:50] So I have now created an environment as a leader, a safe space, so that people can begin to think more freely and more broadly about ideas and problem solving than they did before. And the level of execution or the quality of the solutions will be better over time. The second thing that it does is that if my team knows that I’m going to ask all these questions, then their ideas are going to be better fleshed out before they get to me. In fact, some of those ideas may not get to me when they normally would have because they’re going to self evaluate and self analyze their ideas and either decide to refine them and present them or decide, hey, you know what? This kind of became an idea in search of a problem. So I’m not going I don’t think it’s adding any value. So I’m going to move on to the next one.

Stone Payton: [00:18:42] I am so glad that I asked the question. If you’re out there listening and you want to get some free counsel, really good free counsel consistently, get yourself a radio show interview and ask them about all your all your stuff. No, that was very helpful. Very helpful. So, yeah, while we’re on this path, maybe we could get a little insight into your perspective on how to best utilize the book to get the most out of it, both as an individual. And of course, now I’m envisioning it as as a leader, as a as a team, because I suspect there are some marvelous ways to to get the most out of this individually, but also in a in a team environment. So any any advice you have on that front would be great.

Michael McCathren: [00:19:27] Yeah. So I’m actually using this book as my textbook for the professional MBA course I teach. And what’s really been thankfully a good outcome so far anyway is that at the end of each chapter, I have a section called Your Move, and it’s in three parts. One is it’s a reflection, then a reaction, and then action. So for example, at the end of the people chapter, a reflection question is what would my team say? My question to statement ratio is a reaction. Question is what specific behaviors of trust and humility do I need to improve? And then the action is two parts. One is self to become a better leader with an innovation mindset. What will I do differently first, starting when? And then for the organization or the department or team who will own the responsibility for transforming our team or organization into an innovation organization and what makes this person the best choice? The end of every chapter has that space where you can pause and reflect and figure out, Okay, what exactly am I going to do next with what I just got?

Stone Payton: [00:20:41] All right. Where can our listeners get their hands on this book?

Michael McCathren: [00:20:45] Amazon.com, brother. So six P’s, it is the number six P. S, altogether six P’s of Essential Innovation. On Amazon.com, you can have it on Kindle or order it as a paperback.

Stone Payton: [00:21:00] What an absolute delight to have you join us on the show this afternoon. I’m taking it back to my ranch and applying it. I can tell you that.

Michael McCathren: [00:21:08] Come on. It sounds great. Stunning. Yeah, I would love it. Stay in touch for sure.

Stone Payton: [00:21:12] You got it, man. Again, thank you so much for investing. The time and the energy. The work you’re doing is it’s important, man. And we sincerely appreciate you.

Michael McCathren: [00:21:21] Well, likewise. I appreciate the opportunity.

Stone Payton: [00:21:24] All right. Until next time, this is Stone Payton for our guest today, Michael McCarron, author of the best selling book, Six P’s of Essential Innovation. And everyone here at the Business RadioX family saying, we’ll see you in the fast lane.

 

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September 2, 2022 by angishields

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Ahmed-Refai-headshot-bwAhmed Refai is a high-performing professional with deep expertise in scaling customer relationships generating revenue through customer-focused business development efforts.

He is a trusted advisor to clients with global expertise creating new business opportunities, producing significant expansion for existing customers, new clients, and business partners.

Ahmed engages with key decision-makers, sets strategic business development, and financial plans to penetrate target markets.

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Intro: [00:00:07] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Atlanta, Georgia. It’s time for Buy a Business Near Me. Brought to you by the Business Radio X Ambassador Program, helping business brokers sell more local businesses. Now here’s your host.

Stone Payton: [00:00:32] Welcome to another exciting and informative edition of Buy a Business Near Me. Stone Payton here with you this afternoon. You guys are in for such a real treat. Please join me in welcoming to the broadcast with BTI Group Ahmed Refai. How are you, man?

Ahmed Refai: [00:00:50] I’m very good. Very good. And thank you so much for having me.

Stone Payton: [00:00:53] Oh, man, we are so pleased to have you on the program. I got a ton of questions we won’t get to to all of them, but the place I’d like to start, though. Mission, purpose. How would you articulate what you’re really out there trying to do to serve people?

Ahmed Refai: [00:01:10] Yeah, sure. So first of all, I want to understand the buyers, the seller’s needs, what they’re looking for. Exactly. And each deal is different and unique. You have to understand the characteristics and the dreams and the objectives in the future and how to serve them in the future. And as I mentioned earlier, each deal is different and unique. And if you want to know what they’re looking for, some businesses have been around for ten years and some for 20 years and some for 30 years, and each one has different goal and objectives.

Stone Payton: [00:01:42] So how did you get into business brokerage when everyone else was playing cowboys and Indians? Were you playing business broker? I bet the path was different than that.

Ahmed Refai: [00:01:52] Yeah, it’s interesting. So in my previous position, I used to work for outsourced financial services firm. They provide a financial services and CFO consulting services, day to day transaction and accounting valuation services and taxes as well. And I was working closely with early stage venture backed companies and also I was partnering with VCs and Angels and lawyers. And in 2020, as you know, the pandemic hit and I got laid off among other employees. And I decided to focus in this space because I love numbers, I love finance, and I’m good at numbers. So I decided to focus on financial services industry and BTI Group reached out to me and I had a great conversation with my manager because he was so transparent and honest from the beginning. He talked to me about the pros and cons, about the industry and about the position, and he mentioned many negatives and cons in this space a lot. That’s why I like that he was so transparent. For instance, he told me that the survival rate in this industry is almost 5% because you won’t get paid until you sell a business. And here in the Bay Area, the cost of living is insane. So I have to be financially prepared for at least two years, sometimes more.

Ahmed Refai: [00:03:20] Also, it’s not easy to generate leads. You can generate leads, but it’s not easy to generate good leads. And the national average sale is between 8 to 12 months, sometimes more. So besides all the cons and the negatives, I saw this from different angles and I saw potential opportunity in this space because there is a shortage in online business brokers in the Bay Area. I don’t know what’s happening elsewhere nationwide, but in the Bay Area there is a huge shortage of business brokers. Also, I have financial and consulting background and I saw I can thrive in this space and more importantly, the impact that I provide to business owners and sellers. For instance, me and my manager, we were working on a deal last year and the lady had been operating the business for almost four decades and last year we helped her to sell the business. And she’s not from us. She came from Paris and after selling the business she used the proceeds of the sale and she went back to her home country, Paris, and she bought a new home and she started a new life and new chapter. So how cool is that? And these are the reasons why I decided to get into the business brokerage.

Stone Payton: [00:04:37] So you’ve been at it long enough now. I suspect you’ve probably built your own personal process framework methodology. Is that accurate? And if so, can you tell us a little bit about it?

Ahmed Refai: [00:04:50] Absolutely. And I’m glad you brought this up. So I’m going to answer this question this way. When I first started at BPI group, I didn’t sell a business before and I didn’t know the process. So for the first four or five months, I wanted to understand the ins and outs of the business, how the process looked like, and what type of questions to ask for the buyers and sellers. And I was shadowing my manager and other business brokers and people who have been in the market for 20 and 30 and 40 plus years to learn from them. And after four or five months, I created my own framework and has been working very well for me and I want to break down my framework into four stages. So stage number one is I have to have a consistent deal flow. This is very important and I generate leads through three sources. The first, I generate leads from the marketing department at the firm and I rely on them heavily, I would say 50%. I generate my leads from the marketing department and the other 50% are generate leads from LinkedIn. And through my network I know a bunch of lawyers and accountants and I get referrals from them all the time and once I get the lead, I have to qualify them and answer the. The right questions and then get the financials. It’s no easy task to get the financials from the client.

Ahmed Refai: [00:06:18] Sometimes it takes more than a year to get the financials. You heard me right. It’s a long time. It’s a long time. And I had four clients I got. I reached out to them last February in 2021, last year and in March. And I just got the financials this year. So it’s not easy to and you can imagine you have a business and someone asks you for the financials. It’s not easy. We never send in the financials right away. Right. And once I get the financials, I get I get to the stage number two, which is value the business. And I agree on the purchase price value of the business. It’s mix of art and science and it’s teachable. But to agree on the purchase price, it’s not easy. I became comfortable on agreeing on the purchase price with the seller after having ten or 15 conversations. I guess because most of the times we have valuation in the mind. For instance, there is a client he thought that his business valued at $10 million and after doing the valuation, the business is valued around 1.52 million maximum. So we are far away from 10 million. And I have to justify this number and I have to back up my numbers. So if we are far away that much, then respectfully I have to walk away from the after educating him. But if it’s if he thinks that it’s 10 million and my valuation is seven or eight, then it’s fine.

Ahmed Refai: [00:07:48] We can go from there. And this stage is very important and I had to focus on this one a lot because if you can convince the seller to agree on the purchase price, you will never have a listing. And once you agree on the purchase price, get to the third stage. And this stage is very critical. I start preparing the marketing materials such as the teaser. It’s one page or two, two pages, just the general information of the business to attract and read investors and just vague information. And if investors are interested, then we send them the NDA to send them. The book we call a CVR stands for a confidential business review and then lists all the potential buyers for this stage. Stage number three, I like to check the box for four points. First point is, I want to make sure that the seller is ethical and is truthful because truthfulness is contagious. If the seller lied to me from the beginning, then guess what? It would be lying down the road, especially when we get to the due diligence process. So I want to make sure that how ethical is the owner and he’s truthful or not. The second checkbox that I want to know is most businesses, they need to do some adjustments to enhance the business.

Ahmed Refai: [00:09:13] Some of them are minor and some of them are major adjustments. If it’s minor, it’s fine. But if it’s major, I have to have a hard conversation with the client and be honest with them. If you are going to sell the business at this situation, then you would never sell it at a premium. However, if you can do this adjustments, which is going to take one or two or maybe three years, you will sell the business at premium. And I have to be honest with them upfront from the beginning to set the right expectations. And the third checkbox is I want to see how motivation is the seller because because if he’s not motivated, then how on earth is going to work with me and with the buyer when we get to the due diligence process? So it’s very important to see how cooperative with me and how motivated he is. And the last piece is I want to make sure that I have all the documents at hand and be ready to expedite the process when we get to the process. And I want to extend to this point one of the things that I learned the hard way, I had a client and we prepared everything. We prepared all the paperwork and the documents, and we were ready to go out. And one, when I brought the buyer, he was sophisticated investor. He started to ask the owner a lot of questions and guess what? The owner couldn’t answer all these questions.

Ahmed Refai: [00:10:36] And if I were the investor, I would walk away and he walked away. And what I learned here is in the future, I have to make sure that the seller and the owner is equipped and prepared for this type of conversations because it’s under my responsibility. They haven’t sold the business before and it’s an emotional event and they don’t know what to say and what not to say. So I learned the lesson and I wrote down that in the future, when I encounter this, I have to make sure that the seller is equipped for this type of conversation. And finally, the stage number four is the business goes live and start reaching out to buyers. And when we agree with a potential buyer, we will start working on the process. And this makes or breaks the deal. But if you are prepared for the stage and the seller is prepared as well, you will go through it and you will sell the business and the seller will enjoy the benefits and we get the rewards. This framework works very well for me. This is the foundation I have to master each stage and I’m evolving this framework down the road because if I am not evolving this framework, I will never grow and I will never get to the next level.

Stone Payton: [00:11:53] Sounds to me like you have a very thorough process and one that provides the right kind of education and preparation for for buyer and seller alike. It sounds to me like you’ve invested a lot of energy in this process, this framework of yours.

Ahmed Refai: [00:12:11] Yeah, I read a lot of articles and saw many videos. I shadowed the many, many, many people. I talked to a lot of people. And this is how I become a professional, because I love the industry. I love the impact that I provide to business owners. And this is how you grow and this is how you get it done. Each thing you have to have the framework, but to have a framework that is workable, you have to test it many times and reflect and start again until you get it done. And this one has been working for me for a while. So yeah, it’s working now.

Stone Payton: [00:12:49] Have you found that some types of businesses are? I don’t. I hate to use the word easy, but are a little more marketable or the process comes together faster. I will go ahead and say it. Are they are some businesses easier to sell than others?

Ahmed Refai: [00:13:05] Yeah, of course. Somebody. So my question, my manager told me each business is different and each business is unique and you have to put your ego aside. If you sold five or ten or 20 or 30 businesses don’t think that you can sell any businesses in the future because again, each deal is different. Some businesses to answer the question, some businesses are easy, of course, and some of them are not. But from my experience, you need to do some work and adjustments. Remember when I told you I want to check the box to see that the business needs some adjustments? It could be minor or major. Most of the business owners, unfortunately, they are not prepared to get to this stage. Most of them, they break even. They have a good lifestyle. They send their children to very good schools. They have cars, they bought properties and their businesses are not sellable and they don’t have a management team. They are very good operators. They don’t know how to manage and create a management team. We don’t have sales team. They do everything and when you have this type of businesses, you can’t sell it at a premium.

Ahmed Refai: [00:14:13] You will never sell it at a premium and they are not prepared to have free cash flow, they are not prepared to have a great margins. And they always think about the revenue as a whole as as the whole revenue streams combined. And when I ask them to break down the revenue streams, I would say 95% of them, they don’t have the numbers, they don’t break even each revenue stream. And it takes a lot of work because I have to know each revenue stream, I have to know the margins, the gross profit and everything to see what works and what and what doesn’t work. Because I have to disclose it when I talk to investors and buyers because we talk financials a lot and I want to know what works and what doesn’t. And also, no one is perfect and each business has its own weaknesses and negatives. And I have to suss it out when I talk to investors, because investors wants to know everything about the business. And if you are honest and transparent upfront, it will expedite the process.

Stone Payton: [00:15:16] Well, what I like in what what I’m hearing or I think I’m hearing is if I’m preparing to sell my business, I come to you. We sort of work our way through this framework and we get to that part where we’ve got a valuation or we’re beginning to work on valuation, and then you identify some adjustments that could really move the needle on that valuation. It’s not game over if if I’ve got some of these challenges in my business right now as we sit here today, and if I’ll have an open mind and listen to some of your counsel, I can go back and clean up some things, do some things differently and then come back. I don’t know what the time frame is 18 months, two years, whatever it is. Then we’ve got something that’s very sellable. We don’t have to give up just because we hit that point the first time.

Ahmed Refai: [00:16:06] Right. Exactly. And I want to give you a. And a story that happened to me last year. There was a client came to me and he told me, I want to sell the business. He has been operating the business for almost three decades, 28 years. And he has a good lifestyle. And as I mentioned earlier, he sent his children to good schools, UC Davis and UC Santa Barbara, and he has four or five cars and he has a very good lifestyle. And when I started to the various business and these financials, I was surprised. I was surprised. First of all, his financials were not clean. His margins were very bad. And I had a hard conversation with them. I told him, listen, to sell the business, you have to clean your financials and you have to do major adjustments, not minor adjustments. And if you are going to do these major adjustments, it’s going to take for you 2 to 3 years. So I want to know, are you in a hurry? You want to sell the business, you have something that is emergency. You need liquidity. You want to sell the business right now, or it’s fine to wait two or three years to make the business sellable and attractive to investors. And the answer was great. He told me, No, I can stay two, three years. It’s not good for me, of course, because I want to sell the business. I want to sell the business. But you have to be honest upfront because it’s my reputation and the company’s reputation and we we work for the interest. Remember when I told you one of the most important things that I like about this job is to have an impact. And I remember when I was me and my manager sold the company that I told you about earlier. She was super happy and I’m in touch with her from time to time, use that as a reference and she has a great life and we were the reason to have this life. And she bought a house and she started a new chapter. So it’s amazing.

Stone Payton: [00:18:06] Okay, so let’s talk a little bit about deal structure because it doesn’t necessarily have to be where you’re just writing a check and you’re done. There’s some creative ways that you can structure the buying of a business. Right.

Ahmed Refai: [00:18:23] Exactly. So I’m going to answer this question this way. I work for B.T. Group. It’s a subdivision of business team and business team. They they like to work as a team. When we structured and when we get to the process, we have to work as a team because each deal is different and each deal is unique. And the president wants to make sure that we want we will avoid all the pitfalls down the road. That’s why we have to work as a team, and that’s why the name of the company is business team. Each deal is different and we have to structure differently. And first of all, we have to understand the client’s needs. It’s going to be purchased sale or stock sale and what works for him and based on the tax consequences, because most of the buyers they like to have, they have the love to do asset sale. And because of liabilities and some of the business owners, they don’t understand what does SSA mean and what does stock sale mean. And I have to educate them. But in general rule and this is how it works for most of the deals, most of the times the buyer pays. I’m talking about financial buyers. Most of the financial buyers, they pay between 10 to 20% down payment, preferably more than 10%. The more the better. And the rest will be financed by the bank and 10% would be financed by the seller. The bank wants to make sure that the seller has skin in the game. They want to make sure that he will have a smooth transaction to the new buyer and smooth transaction to the employees is very important. And also want to make sure that the new buyer is he can afford to complete an acquisition. He can afford to pay ten or 15 or 20% for the down payment or not. And then we go from there. We have to be creative, but it’s not it’s not complicated. Again, we work as a team, my manager and other managing directors and VP and the president and we see what’s the best interest for for the seller.

Stone Payton: [00:20:35] Okay. Before we wrap, let’s leave our listeners with with a with a few pro tips buyers and sellers alike, just some actionable tips, some things they can begin doing, maybe reading, maybe be thinking about. I mean, the number one tip is reach out to refi. But, you know, short of that, what are some some pro tips that we could leave them with?

Ahmed Refai: [00:20:56] So I have tips for buyers and sellers that start with the buyers. First, the buyers should understand what does business brokers look for? Business brokers look for two important questions. For me. For me, for instance, I want to know that this buyer is capable to run the business or not. He’s qualified to run the business or not. He will be qualified by the bank or not. Second, I want to make sure that he can complete the acquisition. He can afford to complete the acquisition. And finally, for the buyer, as they have to have their own characteristics and their own thesis. Last last week, I had a conversation with sophisticated buyer. He told me, you know, refi. I’m looking for businesses that they have between 1 million to 3 million pre profit and should be in the Bay Area concise to the point and he knows what he’s doing. Other buyers, they don’t know what they’re doing and they’re all over the place. They’re looking for any business and it doesn’t work that way. They have to be concise and understand the characteristics regarding the sellers. They have to clean the financials. They have to have all the documents and the paperwork ready at hand to expedite the process when we get to the deed process.

Ahmed Refai: [00:22:10] Also, I always start with the sellers. They have to ask themselves what they’re going to do after selling the business. If they can’t answer this question, then I tell them, Please don’t proceed and don’t sell the business. This is very important. Also, they have to understand the working capital and the tax consequences for the sellers post acquisition. And this is the contentious that happens between the sellers and the buyers and the continuing involvement post-sale. They have to be prepared and willing to stay at least six months, maybe more. It depends on the business because each business that is to stay for at least six months to make sure that they have a smooth transaction and to increase the value of the company. The seller should have a management team to run the business and his or her absence and have a sales team and more importantly, to have a subscription model. This is very important to estimate the demand and predict the free cash flow, because if you can predict the free cash flow, then there is no business. Right?

Stone Payton: [00:23:16] Right.

Ahmed Refai: [00:23:18] If the seller can can have a strong and robust management team and can have sales team and can have a robust subscription model, the seller can buy the business sell the business at premium price.

Stone Payton: [00:23:32] Well, I’m glad I asked what a marvelous set of tips. Okay. So if someone would like to reach out, have a conversation with you or someone on your team, or just learn more about any of these topics, let’s make sure that they can get connected with you, whatever you feel like is appropriate. Email, phone, website, LinkedIn. I just want to make sure they can connect with you.

Ahmed Refai: [00:23:54] Sure. Like LinkedIn. And through my email. My email is a wi fi a r e f i at business dash. Time.com is a way I can reach out.

Stone Payton: [00:24:07] Well, it has been an absolute delight having you on the show this afternoon refi. Thank you for making the time to do it.

Ahmed Refai: [00:24:15] Thank you so much, Stone. I really enjoyed this conversation and thank you so much for having me.

Stone Payton: [00:24:20] All right. This is Stone Payton for our guest today. Refi with BTI group and everyone here at the Business RadioX family saying we’ll see you next time on buy a business near me.

 

WBENC 2022: Zoe Oli with Beautiful Curly Me

September 1, 2022 by angishields

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Intro: [00:00:04] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Atlanta, Georgia, it’s time for GWBC Radio’s Open for Business. Now, here’s your host.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:18] Lee Kantor here, broadcasting live from the 2022 WBENC National Conference inside the GWBC booth, booth 1812, so come by and see us. So excited. Been waiting all day for this interview. Zoe Olie.

Zoe Olie: [00:00:18] Olie.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:33] Olie. Close, close. 50/50 chance. Sorry, I screwed it up. Zoe Olie with Beautiful Curly Me. Welcome, Zoe.

Zoe Olie: [00:00:42] Thank you for having me.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:44] So excited. For our listeners who can’t see, Zoe is a little younger than some of the folks we have had here and I haven’t asked anybody their age, but I’m going to ask you yours. How old are you, Zoe?

Zoe Olie: [00:00:54] I am 10.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:56] Ten years old, and you are a certified women-owned business.

Zoe Olie: [00:01:00] Yes.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:01] Congratulations on that.

Zoe Olie: [00:01:02] Thank you.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:03] What made you get certified?

Zoe Olie: [00:01:07] Because I own—I am the CEO and co-founder with my mom, Ivana, of Beautiful Curly Me, which is my company. And Beautiful Curly Me is a brand on a mission to instill and inspire confidence in young Black and Brown girls through toys and empowering content. And we are also a social impact brand, so for every dollar that’s bought on our website, beautifulcurlyme.com, we give one to a young girl in need.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:36] Very nice. So, now, what was—how did the idea come about?

Zoe Olie: [00:01:40] So, when I was six years old, I did not-

Lee Kantor: [00:01:42] Way back then.

Zoe Olie: [00:01:43] Yes.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:43] That was four years ago. That was forever.

Zoe Olie: [00:01:47] So, when I was six, I did not like my hair and I wished it was straight, like my classmates. And so, my mom did everything she could to help me, including getting me a Black doll. And I really like that doll, but she did not have hair that looked like mine, and I still did not feel good about myself because of that. And so, when my mom went back to the stores and came up short, I decided I wanted to start my own business and do something about this.

Lee Kantor: [00:02:12] And the business is dolls with curly hair?

Zoe Olie: [00:02:15] Yes. So, we have a line of dolls, Layla and Mika, with curls and braids, and we also sell the books that I have written, as well as puzzles and haircare accessories.

Lee Kantor: [00:02:26] So, having an idea, and then having a doll are two different things. So, what did that first doll—how did you kind of create that first doll?

Zoe Olie: [00:02:36] Well, we did a lot of research, because my mom did not know anything about the doll or toy manufacturing.

Lee Kantor: [00:02:41] What about you? You’re the doll person. Your mom probably doesn’t have a lot of dolls, I would guess.

Zoe Olie: [00:02:47] No, not really.

Lee Kantor: [00:02:48] I bet you have more.

Zoe Olie: [00:02:50] Yes, I did.

Lee Kantor: [00:02:50] I want to know about your dolls. How did you say I want the doll to look like this, I want it to have this kind of dress, I want it to have this kind of a face? How did that happen?

Zoe Olie: [00:03:01] Well, I knew that I wanted a doll with curly and relatable hair, so we first decided the texture of hair we wanted. We decided the skin color as well. And then, we decided about the outfit, which we were all about affirmations and being proud of who you are. So, we chose curly and confident as like our kind of statement.

Lee Kantor: [00:03:25] That’s your catchphrase?

Zoe Olie: [00:03:25] Yes.

Lee Kantor: [00:03:26] Curly and confident.

Zoe Olie: [00:03:27] And so, that’s actually on the doll’s t-shirt.

Lee Kantor: [00:03:29] Do you have t-shirts that I can buy that say curly and confident? My hair gets very curly. It doesn’t look curly now, but it will get curly.

Zoe Olie: [00:03:38] We actually do have women’s t-shirts on sale on our website, beautifulcurlyme.com.

Lee Kantor: [00:03:44] Alright. Beautifulcurlyme.com. We’ll get a shirt hopefully in my size at some point. So, when you’re doing this kind of work, and you think about, oh, I’d like to have a doll, and you design the doll, did you look at—how did you tell the person to make it? Like did your mom make the first doll or did you make it? Did you sew a doll like or do you go and get—where do you go to get dolls?

Zoe Olie: [00:04:10] Well, we looked online for a supplier in China who currently helps us make and manufacture the dolls to us. And then, we also found someone to get our boxes, as well as all the other things that the doll comes with.

Lee Kantor: [00:04:26] But isn’t that the fun part, saying, picking, I like that, I don’t like this? Did you have fun doing that?

Zoe Olie: [00:04:31] Yes, I actually did have fun. We had a lot of trial and error.

Lee Kantor: [00:04:35] Did you have your friends help? Did you all get together, and go, okay, do you like this? I don’t know, I like this one better.

Zoe Olie: [00:04:41] Well, it was mostly me and my mom. We had a lot of conversations of what we liked about the dolls, and we continued to have a lot of strategy.

Lee Kantor: [00:04:50] Yeah, your way or did she get her way?

Zoe Olie: [00:04:54] I think we both compromised, and we also—our customers send us a lot of feedback, so we use that as well to continue to grow our business.

Lee Kantor: [00:05:05] So, what’s your favorite part?

Zoe Olie: [00:05:07] My favorite part is probably the reviews that we get and the customers saying they love our products.

Lee Kantor: [00:05:12] Not the money?

Zoe Olie: [00:05:15] Well, most of the money we get goes back into the business, but I do enjoy seeing the fruits of my labor and all the revenue that we receive.

Lee Kantor: [00:05:24] You don’t have to be embarrassed about it. There’s nothing wrong with, when that money comes in, you’re like, oh, I can buy more dolls, I can help more people, right?

Zoe Olie: [00:05:33] Yeah.

Lee Kantor: [00:05:33] The more money that comes in, the more people you can help and get more dolls to more folks.

Zoe Olie: [00:05:37] Exactly.

Lee Kantor: [00:05:38] So, what was it like when you gave that first doll to a child in need? How did you feel?

Zoe Olie: [00:05:45] I felt very empowered and I just like to see all that other little kids look up to me who want to start a business, and looking at this doll, really, a mark of confidence to them is just really empowering.

Lee Kantor: [00:06:03] So, has some kid come up to you, and saw you like a celebrity, asked for your autograph? Does that happen?

Zoe Olie: [00:06:09] Actually, no.

Lee Kantor: [00:06:10] Not yet?

Zoe Olie: [00:06:11] Not yet.

Lee Kantor: [00:06:12] So, I’ll be the first person to ask for your autograph?

Zoe Olie: [00:06:14] Yes.

Lee Kantor: [00:06:15] Okay. Good to know. So, now, what advice would you give other kids that are going to start a business? And they have dreams, a lot of kids have dreams, oh, I wish I had this, I wish this could happen, wishing and doing are different things.

Zoe Olie: [00:06:29] I would say, number 1, don’t be afraid to fail up. And again, there are always people that are there to help you along the way, your parents, teachers, counselors, and there are always people that are willing to help you and support you along your journey. Yeah.

Lee Kantor: [00:06:48] So, with the right team, you could do anything, right?

Zoe Olie: [00:06:51] Exactly.

Lee Kantor: [00:06:52] And you feel like you got a good team?

Zoe Olie: [00:06:54] Yes. And one more thing, always don’t be afraid to get started. I like to say don’t wait for the perfect wave, just swim. So, don’t be afraid, if you’re waiting for the perfect time, just get started.

Lee Kantor: [00:07:09] So, is that coming on a t-shirt soon?

Zoe Olie: [00:07:12] Maybe.

Lee Kantor: [00:07:12] Maybe.

Zoe Olie: [00:07:13] I’ll keep you posted.

Lee Kantor: [00:07:14] Keep me posted. And the website one more time?

Zoe Olie: [00:07:17] Beautifulcurlyme.com. And we also have Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn, and Twitter @beautifulcurlyme.

Lee Kantor: [00:07:26] Alright. Well, thank you so much for sharing your story today, Zoe.

Zoe Olie: [00:07:29] Thank you for having me.

Lee Kantor: [00:07:30] Alright. You’re doing important work and we appreciate you.

Zoe Olie: [00:07:33] Yes. Thank you.

Lee Kantor: [00:07:34] Alright. This is Lee Kantor. We will see you in a few at the WBENC National Conference 2022 inside the boot of GWBC.

 


About WBENC

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We believe diversity promotes innovation, opens doors, and creates partnerships that fuel the economy. That’s why we not only provide the most relied upon certification standard for women-owned businesses, but we also offer the tools to help them succeed.

About GWBC

The Greater Women’s Business Council (GWBC®) is at the forefront of redefining women business enterprises (WBEs). An increasing focus on supplier diversity means major corporations are viewing our WBEs as innovative, flexible and competitive solutions. The number of women-owned businesses is rising to reflect an increasingly diverse consumer base of women making a majority of buying decision for herself, her family and her business. GWBC-Logo

GWBC® has partnered with dozens of major companies who are committed to providing a sustainable foundation through our guiding principles to bring education, training and the standardization of national certification to women businesses in Georgia, North Carolina and South Carolina.

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Cristiana Dudash with Soft Serenity Candle Company

August 31, 2022 by angishields

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Soft Serenity Candle Company focuses on sustainability and clean living. Our candles are hand-made with 100% soy wax, cotton wicks, and high-quality oils. We are non-toxic, paraffin-free, vegan, and dye-free.

Each candle is handmade in small batches and tested to guarantee burn quality and longevity. Our mission is to continuously offer the highest standard in home fragrance while never sacrificing a clean and sustainable lifestyle.

Christiana-Dudash-Soft-Serenity-Candle-Company-headshotCristiana Dudash is the owner of Soft Serenity Candle Company. She hand pours 100% natural soy wax candles in small batches in Woodstock, GA.

Her passion is to provide a safe and healthy option for you and your home.

She loves to provide nontoxic alternatives for you to cozy up to.

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Intro: [00:00:10] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Woodstock, Georgia. It’s time for Cherokee Business Radio. Now, here’s your host.

Sharon Cline: [00:00:25] And welcome to a random Tuesday edition of Fearless Formula on Cherokee Radio X, where we talk about the ups and downs in the business world and we offer words of wisdom for small business owners and to have business success. I’m your host, Sharon Cline, and our guest in the studio today is a small business owner here in Woodstock, and she has been in her industry for about three years now. You can find her on Instagram and TikTok and Pinterest and all all the socials out there. And she is the owner of Soft Serenity Candles. Welcome,Cristiana Dudash, to the show.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:01:01] Thank you for having us today. We’re so excited to be here.

Sharon Cline: [00:01:05] So glad you came in. And we’re about to have a major thunderstorm, so we’re going to enjoy our little chat in here while it storms outside.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:01:12] Definitely.

Sharon Cline: [00:01:13] Well, I want to talk to you a bit about your small business. What I love about your story is that really this is kind of from the ground up for you. So can you tell me what got you interested in in making your own candle business?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:01:25] Yeah, well, it kind of started during a crazy time. I started it right when we shut down for COVID, really, which was a crazy time to even start a small business. But I was out of work. I was like, okay, well, I need to make ends meet. And a lot of my friends own small businesses, so they were like, All right, well, you know what? This is the time to. Go running. So I did and started in my kitchen, which is crazy now because he built me out. Andrew I say, he built me out a great workspace down in the basement to grow, and without his support, really, it wouldn’t be where it is right now.

Sharon Cline: [00:02:02] So when you look into how you start a candle business, it’s kind of like the basic ingredients, right? Like you have to find wax and the different scents. And was it just a lot of experimenting to get the things that you really like?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:02:15] Yeah, it was a lot of trial and error for sure, and I wanted something that was nontoxic. Like, Yeah, that was my biggest thing is I would burn bath and body works candles all the time and I noticed that there was like black residue on the walls and I was like, oh, does this from from like the the soot, the black smoke and all that. And I was like, okay, well, this can’t be good for you. And after I was looking into it, they used paraffin. And the more I read about paraffin, I found out that it’s cancer causing. So when you’re burning these type of candles, you’re breathing in these carcinogens, which is crazy.

Sharon Cline: [00:02:49] Because they’re they’re allowed to sell them, obviously. I mean, they do. I have them.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:02:53] Yeah. So not just bath and body works, but any, you know, big name stories. A lot of them have soy blends that also contain paraffin.

Sharon Cline: [00:03:02] It’s not just strictly soy then. Right? Oh, interesting.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:03:05] So that was kind of my biggest thing, I guess, to focus on. So I made all my candles 100% soy wax and I found oils as well that don’t contain any toxins so that when they burn the soy and the oils that I was using, they paired well together without anyone having to worry about, you know, burning these toxin toxic candles in their environment, in homes.

Sharon Cline: [00:03:27] It’s interesting because I didn’t know I don’t know very much about candles, which is what I really love about talking to you, especially full time, because I am like a candle aholic and I just love all the fall scents and for some reason it just fills my soul with happiness. And so I load up on wherever I get a bunch of candles. And I really didn’t consider at all the aspect of, Oh no, because of course I don’t want that. I don’t want anything bad happening to me or around pets where, you know, if you have dogs or cats or whatever, they’re probably especially sensitive to those things.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:03:59] Right? And even like small children, like I’ve had a lot of customers also say that before they bought from me, they were like, I have all these allergies when I burn candles, I don’t know what it’s from. And then they buy mine and they burn them and like, I.

Sharon Cline: [00:04:13] Know.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:04:13] Allergies. Yeah. I don’t get affected by them. I can burn them all the time. I hear, you know, the sensor light. My husband can stay in them, you know, so. I guess, you know, that has something to say for it as well, using these clean ingredients rather than burning, you know.

Sharon Cline: [00:04:30] What are your favorite sense that you have now that you just love?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:04:33] Oh, okay. Well, we just launched the fall collection so that all season the pumpkin chai is my absolute favorite. Everyone loves pumpkin. I’m trying to think like some of the most popular ones would be the oak, moss and Amber. It’s more like musk and like, masculine kind of smells like a lot of people have told me. Like Abercrombie and Fitch, like the adult. Interesting. Okay, that one’s really good. The lighter scents, maybe like limoncello and brown sugar and fig. Those are, like, all year.

Sharon Cline: [00:05:06] So you put these together? Yeah. So do you get these essential oils? Is that how it works? And then you melt everything down. I guess I’m trying to picture it the process in my head, but I’ve seen some of your Instagram videos, which is so nice because you get a little glimpse in the behind the scenes.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:05:20] Yeah, so it took a while. I was for a long time melting everything on our stovetop and I was like, This is taking way too long. And then he found me like an industrial melter. So now I can make about about 200.

Sharon Cline: [00:05:35] At the time.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:05:35] Oh yeah. So I melt all that down, I mix all the oils into it and center the wicks and pour, and it takes about 48 hours for everything to cure and then fully about a week to two weeks for it to be good to burn.

Sharon Cline: [00:05:50] What I wanted to ask you, too, about the pandemic. Obviously, you started in the pandemic. Yeah, but what’s kind of cool is that this this business does not relying on person to person interaction like you’ve been able to do a lot of this on your own, on your website, is that right?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:06:04] Yeah. And it’s kind of hard to and crazy like people will buy these scents without even smelling them. Yeah. So I have to write like really descriptive like, I guess descriptions of each scent on the website for people to read so they know what they’re buying. And I do the pop up events and I am in local shops that people can go in and out and smell.

Sharon Cline: [00:06:24] So now that we’ve been able to open up a bit, you’ve I know that you’ve gone to some of the former farmers markets. So how is that been for you? What is it.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:06:32] Like? So fun. And I love meeting all my customers because there’s people that were buying during the shutdown, obviously never met them, and they would come and be like, Oh yeah, I bought, you know, this scent and I love it all the time. I bring it whenever and like seeing them face to face. I don’t know. You build new connections and repeat customers really after you make that connection with them.

Sharon Cline: [00:06:52] One of the aspects about business I talk about on the show a lot is relationships because you are obviously you’re running a business and it’s about money and profit and loss and all of that. But there’s the relationship aspect. We’re all humans just chit chatting and enjoying candles together, you know? But how nice it is that as well as through social media, you can really build a following and have a relationship with people, even if you don’t see them face to face. How nice they come to see you. Yeah, at your places.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:07:18] I know. It makes it feel so special. I’m like, okay, you will you follow me on social media? You see myself all the time and they come to meet me and actually, like, smell the candles in person. I don’t know. It’s a really cool, cool feeling.

Intro: [00:07:30] Yeah.

Sharon Cline: [00:07:30] So you feel like what is what is the most fun and satisfying part about it? Is it meeting the people like that or.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:07:37] I would say that and then like actually hearing people’s feedback about the sense I get a lot of good feedback. And then I also started like my ambassador program.

Sharon Cline: [00:07:45] What is your ambassador program?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:07:47] So I have on Instagram all these like micro-influencers influencers that are like helping me promote my candles and they are so great about giving me feedback on what’s coming out, like what I should do to improve the new scents, or what should I do to even just improve my social media in general.

Sharon Cline: [00:08:05] I just spoke to someone about this on Friday about what how people use the Internet to advertise so much. And I’m like, I follow I hate to say this, but I follow TikTok and I do get influenced by the.

Intro: [00:08:18] Things that I see.

Sharon Cline: [00:08:20] But it’s it’s fascinating how much you really can get real time feedback and and that can change the direction of where you’re going with something that you want to make it. It’s like it takes a little bit of a village. Everyone’s kind of helping each other, which is like a win all around, you know, because you’re making a better product and right.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:08:36] And it helps these influencers to, like, grow their business. So it’s just it’s a win win. You’re doing both.

Sharon Cline: [00:08:42] I can’t imagine how hard it would be to have your own candle company and not have something like social media or Facebook.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:08:48] It’s the only reason why I really like without social media. Yeah.

Sharon Cline: [00:08:54] I can’t imagine. Yeah. Well, I mean, I know there are people do it and have done it, but it’s so nice, especially because you’re a younger sort of entrepreneur. So I imagine your way to look at it, it’s always includes social media or ambassadors, whereas for me I’m like, Wait, what? What is that like? I’m supposed to take videos. Right now I have two of us in the studio and like promote. Have I done.

Intro: [00:09:13] That? It’s sold out and.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:09:14] Like, no, it’s hard to like to come up with the content, come up with new ideas, and I try to put him in all the time. Seems like I don’t know what to do.

Sharon Cline: [00:09:23] Like, it’s just to be. You mean to be, like, original and and.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:09:27] And so hard. So hard to come up with new things. And, like what? Like, what are people going to like? You know, what’s going to keep people interested and watching these reels of how they respond to things.

Sharon Cline: [00:09:39] That’s something I didn’t think about as well is how you it’s almost a competition between other people who are doing their own campaigns, I guess, or even candle campaigns. It’s not just campaigns in general. Right? So what was it like for you to create your LLC or whatever it is, or DBA or how did you go about creating your company?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:09:58] Well, the LLC was something that my brother was like pushing me to do. He’s like, You got to do this, you know?

Sharon Cline: [00:10:04] Why did he say it was so important? Because I have an LLC as well.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:10:07] Yeah, he’s just like, cause you want something to make it look like you’re. You’re legit.

Sharon Cline: [00:10:12] Yeah. And you’re into protected, right. Which is great, actually.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:10:15] The candles. I’m going to need that protection.

Intro: [00:10:19] So true.

Sharon Cline: [00:10:21] No one’s afraid of my voice except me. But candles has something, you know, a liability, I imagine. I never thought about that.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:10:27] Yeah. So that was his biggest thing, but. And it’s been really nice being able to, like, step back from the restaurant industry because I was in like full time working my life away at the restaurant and I was like, okay, well, I need something that I can potentially turn into my career. So that was a huge. Like, what’s the word I’m looking for? Just like motivation, I guess.

Sharon Cline: [00:10:49] Yeah, absolutely. Do you think about where you want to go?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:10:54] Like, oh, I would love this to be my full time.

Sharon Cline: [00:10:57] On Shark Tank. I should go chicken shark.

Intro: [00:10:59] People tell me that all the time. I’m like.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:11:01] For? I don’t know. It’s a candle.

Intro: [00:11:03] I know it’s hard, but.

Sharon Cline: [00:11:04] They’re unique to you, though. I don’t know.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:11:07] They are.

Sharon Cline: [00:11:08] Wouldn’t that be cool? That would be really cool.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:11:10] I had a friend that was on Shark Tank and got her first.

Sharon Cline: [00:11:13] No kidding. Yeah, but you know what? It’s even just the exposure on Shark, even if they’re like, Yeah, I pass or whatever they say or I’m out, they say I’m out. That’s still a B. Well, who knows what life will bring? I mean, really, it seems like you’re doing like you’re really enjoying this process and you’re.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:11:28] It’s so.

Sharon Cline: [00:11:28] Fun putting your heart into it. So are there any things that you’ve learned along the way that you wish you could have told yourself in the very beginning?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:11:36] Yeah, not to always think it’s going to be successful. Like that was my biggest thing. Like when I started, it was great because it was new. So whatever success I was making, you know, was good. But now like that, I’m growing. If I have a launch that doesn’t do well, I got to keep telling myself it’s fine. Like, keep going, keep going.

Intro: [00:11:59] You know?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:12:00] That was my biggest.

Sharon Cline: [00:12:02] Yes. You assume that it’s all going to work out just fine and that your plan, that’s my story. Like I always assume it’s all going to be great. And when it’s not, I just like, put my hands up, like, wait a minute. But I did all the right things. You know, I wish I could control, you know, control outcomes of of everything. But I imagine, too, I mean, you’re making the product the best way you can, so you’re just hoping that other people will appreciate it, too. But you said that that you’ve changed a little bit from the very beginning. What have you done differently?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:12:29] Yeah, it’s been a lot of trial and error, like the beginning, really. I was kind of winging it like I didn’t know what I was doing. And now that I’ve been in it for almost three years now, I know it works. What doesn’t work? I’m still learning what doesn’t work and what works. But as far as like the candles themselves, my formula has changed and making them, they’re stronger now. They don’t burn as quickly now. And I’m expanding to like I have the soaps and the room sprays. Tell me tell.

Sharon Cline: [00:13:02] Me about this. This is a whole other side of your business. I’m excited to hear about this.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:13:06] Yeah. So the soaps, one of my really good friends, started making them, and a lot of people have asked me, they’re like, Do you do the soaps, too? And I guess maybe because soaps and candles, they just they go.

Sharon Cline: [00:13:16] Together.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:13:16] Right? So I was like, no, I don’t make them. But that just seem like a whole new task to start doing. So I was like, Well, I may find someone that makes natural soaps that are good for your skin. And I found someone and she only uses natural ingredients. So I was like, This is perfect. This aligns perfectly with what I want. So I started buying wholesale from her. So now I sell them on my website and they’re great. They’ve been selling out nonstop. Yeah.

Intro: [00:13:42] Yeah.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:13:42] So we’re actually bringing in some new scents and a couple of weeks to to bring the fall.

Sharon Cline: [00:13:49] That’s so exciting. What I love, too, is that you’re able to collaborate with people who have the same kind of vision as you. Yeah. Who would have ever thought, right?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:13:55] Yeah. It’s so fun. Like supporting other women, woman owned businesses as well.

Sharon Cline: [00:14:00] What is an inspiration or do you have inspiration for the different scents? Like, do you ever go somewhere and smell something? And you’re just like, What is that scent? I must have this. You know.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:14:09] There’s a lot of sense to that. I have ordered for the candles that remind me of like childhood.

Sharon Cline: [00:14:15] Like what reminds me of childhood. Like I just.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:14:17] Ordered a tobacco scent and it reminds me of my poppy. Oh, he used to smoke cigars all the time. And that’s like the scent, I guess you think?

Sharon Cline: [00:14:25] Oh, yeah. Gosh, that’s really clever. Yeah, I haven’t thought. I’m sure they have them, but I just have never seen one.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:14:30] But so that one is recent. I mean, the pumpkin chai is just. It’s fall and cozy and warm probably.

Sharon Cline: [00:14:38] It’s kind of spicy. And I know scents are hard to describe, aren’t they? Are you like do you like thesaurus of different things?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:14:45] Yeah. It’s so hard to come up with descriptions for them. I’m like, It just smells like pumpkin.

Sharon Cline: [00:14:53] So what are some of the different ways that you do your your marketing? I mean, have you had to invest money into marketing or are you more strictly online?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:15:01] Yeah, I’m more so online. I have paid for ads through Facebook and Instagram, but I don’t feel like for me any way that the ads don’t work as well as me getting face to face, like talking on stories, connecting with customers that way. But I feel like social media is a full time job in itself. Like I’m constantly having to engage with my customers on social media.

Sharon Cline: [00:15:25] I read somewhere and I’m I don’t. So this is so vague as far as a real statistic. But I read somewhere that you have to be posting like five or six times a day, some, some crazy number in order for you to really see return on the investment of time and energy. Is that do you find that to be true? I don’t know. Is that a.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:15:46] I think so, yeah. Even if it’s just posting like on your story, not necessarily like a post daily, you know what I mean? But I mean, I try to post at least once a day like all my feet and then everything else is just on my story. And then tick tock, I’m learning tick tock. It’s really hard to get into. It’s kind of cringing. I’m trying, but yeah, Facebook and Instagram for sure. And then Pinterest, I’ll like post my pictures and it like turns into ads there so people can actually pin my pictures to their boards, which is cool.

Sharon Cline: [00:16:18] So you’ve had to learn a whole not just candles and how to make them, but you’ve had to learn a whole aspect of marketing yourself in using the Internet in a way that effectively allows you to market yourself and have higher sales, I guess. Yeah. What’s the most effective way, do you think, for you?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:16:34] So on my actual website I have like a text club, so people will put in their phone numbers and if I send out a text to my customers, that’s pretty much how I get a lot of my sales and I’ll communicate that way. It’s like my VIP club.

Sharon Cline: [00:16:48] Oh, I got you. It’s funny because the woman that was here on she’s the social media marketing guru, and she was saying that that’s one of the best ways as well. I don’t know. She said it on the air or afterwards. But I remember thinking that’s why I get the text that. A sale is going on or something more interesting.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:17:05] And on the text it brings you or it gives you the link to just click on it.

Sharon Cline: [00:17:09] She said It’s a very high return of investment or time, I suppose.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:17:13] Yeah. Email. I don’t do the emails as much just with my generation. I guess we don’t really do emails.

Intro: [00:17:20] The text messages? Yeah.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:17:23] Text messages for sure. Great.

Sharon Cline: [00:17:25] Well, if you’re just joining us, we are speaking with Christiana Dudas. She is owner of Soft Serenity Candles. I also wanted to ask you, what are some of the surprises that you’ve kind of come across, like things you didn’t expect to happen as you’ve created your business?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:17:40] Yeah, I guess like I said before, just growing as much as I have. Like I would have never thought I’d be where I am now to the point where I can basically really quit my full time job.

Sharon Cline: [00:17:51] So the success was a surprise.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:17:53] Yeah, because it was just something at that time when I started it to make ends meet.

Sharon Cline: [00:17:57] Because.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:17:58] I wasn’t able to work as much because of COVID. And I was like, okay, well, I need something. So just taking.

Intro: [00:18:05] Off.

Sharon Cline: [00:18:06] Right. Well, I mean, it’s funny because you can you can, like I was saying, do all of the right things and then have it not work. And then there’s also. Oh, no.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:18:14] Yeah, I know. And that’s kind of where we’re at now. Like I’m trying to figure out. Really. I’m at a spot now where I need to, like, move into a bigger space to grow more, which is great. So now.

Sharon Cline: [00:18:25] It’s like a problem, but a good problem, but still it’s a.

Intro: [00:18:27] Problem. Yeah.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:18:28] So hopefully soon we can figure that out because.

Sharon Cline: [00:18:32] Well, so I also wanted to ask you, what do you think is the most challenging thing about being an entrepreneur, whether it’s your age or whether it’s the amount of time that it takes or how many? I would think it’s the amount of time because you really your product really is contingent upon the amount of time you put in it.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:18:49] I would say time and balance, like work balance, because it is hard for me to like step back at night. Like I’ll be I’ll be on my phone for 24 seven, like connecting with people and talking. Yeah, talking to business owners because I have a lot of business owners that will like, which makes sense will message me like after their work hours to do wholesale with them in their shop. So I’m like constantly like going back and forth with that. I’ll get off work at like 8:00 at night and then I’ll go downstairs and make candles till midnight or 1 a.m.. I’m like, okay, I need a healthy work balance. I would say that’s probably my biggest challenge right now, is finding that healthy work.

Sharon Cline: [00:19:26] I imagine it feels like if you don’t respond to losing a sale like the whole point of being, it’s I imagine it’s like being a realtor. If you don’t answer, you know, someone’s going to move on to a different. Yeah, but at the same time, how do you create a balance? Where do you put the the boundaries around it? Right. I don’t have a boundary.

Intro: [00:19:45] You know.

Sharon Cline: [00:19:46] Anyone that says something to me, I’m like, what? Yes. Just because. But how do you do it?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:19:51] I’m still trying to figure that out. I’m still trying to figure it out. Yeah. So that’s my biggest struggle and challenge at the current moment.

Sharon Cline: [00:19:59] So what’s it like to go into a store and see your products on the show?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:20:03] It’s awesome. And I love seeing other people like kind of watching them without them knowing like, Oh, that’s mine. Oh, smelling it and like hearing their feedback. I’m like.

Intro: [00:20:10] This is cool.

Sharon Cline: [00:20:12] It must be very satisfying.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:20:13] Yeah. And I love going in to shops and like weekly, you know, twice, twice a month or whatever and see the candle like stock go down like, okay, this is great because people are obviously buying them.

Sharon Cline: [00:20:24] What is your number one seller? Do you have a number or is it seasonal?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:20:27] Seasonal?

Sharon Cline: [00:20:27] Oh, I got you.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:20:28] And say it’s seasonal limoncello for spring and summer for sure. And then the pumpkin, the pumpkin.

Sharon Cline: [00:20:33] Everything. Pumpkin. I saw pumpkin recently. What was it, pumpkin? Was it Oreos? I just remember thinking it’s everywhere. Yeah, I was kind of excited, but like more of. I do. Yeah. So what do you think is like one of the biggest misconceptions of your industry? Do you think that people just kind of feel like they understand it, but they if there’s something you could tell them, like you’re telling me now, like and we have a minute to actually focus on it, what would you want them to know?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:20:57] I hear a lot like at pop ups, people, like I was saying earlier, people are like, oh, I can’t buy these. I have allergies. If they like. If they knew what was actually going into like my candles, I think it’d be a little bit different. A lot of people have a bad misconception. Misconception anyway about the paraffin candles and they think it’s all one.

Sharon Cline: [00:21:16] Well, I didn’t know. I haven’t really looked into it myself, so I didn’t actually know that there was such a difference. Yeah.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:21:21] So I think recently, like a lot of a lot more people are trying to change their lifestyles into like more healthy lifestyles. So when they see candles, they’re like, Oh, well, that can’t be healthy. It can’t be good to breathe in.

Sharon Cline: [00:21:33] Right. Do you do you promote that a tremendous amount to that you’re.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:21:37] Yeah, I really try.

Sharon Cline: [00:21:38] To different or whatever. Well no, I mean that’s a huge thing. I had no idea. And I’m I’m sure there are ways legally around carcinogen things I really don’t know. But my life as always, I’ve always got candles going or some kind of scent in my house. And now definitely I mean, I’ve had your candles in the past and they’re so great. So I’m excited to have a different one, a new one. So when you’re getting ready for like the the holidays obviously coming, what is it like for you to prepare? Like do you have to kind of stock up on all your stuff now?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:22:10] Yeah, even with the fall candles, I was starting all these fall candles in June.

Sharon Cline: [00:22:15] It’s probably feels.

Intro: [00:22:16] Weird, right? Yeah.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:22:17] Have to, because fall and winter are my biggest, biggest seasons. And holiday season last year was insane because I wasn’t ready.

Intro: [00:22:25] So this year, did.

Sharon Cline: [00:22:27] You run out? Is that what it was like?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:22:29] I ran out like the first couple of weeks of launching. I was done.

Sharon Cline: [00:22:32] No way.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:22:33] Yeah.

Intro: [00:22:34] So now a good problem. Yeah, it.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:22:36] Is a really good problem. But now I know like, okay, this is what I need to make and make sure I’m ready because even all these shows, like all these holiday pop up shows that I go to, I’ll sell out and I’m like, okay, well, now I’m in a scramble because I have to make all these before Christmas because people want them for Christmas.

Intro: [00:22:50] So I do. I want them.

Sharon Cline: [00:22:53] So if you were to kind of think about the things that, you know, the show is obviously called Fearless Formula. So are there some things that you just are have been afraid of or, like concerned about and now you’re not anymore?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:23:06] I would say just getting my face out there. Like in the beginning I would not show up on stories. And that’s like what people want to see. They’re like building a relationship and trust with seeing you on there, talking about your product. And I’ve I feel like I’ve hopefully anyway, I feel like I’ve been showing up more because people want to see the, you know, behind the scenes and not just here’s the Kindle or whatever the room sprays the soaps.

Sharon Cline: [00:23:33] It’s such an interesting notion because I’m so resistant to it. Like I don’t want anything to be like about me, me, me so much. I mean, I’m fine doing like a show and chatting, but like, I don’t want to be on camera and talking about me. For some reason, I have just such an aversion. I’d rather it be about the work I’m doing or.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:23:51] Yeah, and I would too. But I feel like people would remember faces better than. I mean, a candle. Like you see candles all the time. So I’m like, if I put my face out there, like, Oh, that’s the candle maker and Woodstock.

Intro: [00:24:03] But it’s a very.

Sharon Cline: [00:24:03] Good point because, well, it’s a it’s probably a generational thing, too, because everyone’s on there. And I do see that if I can associate a face with someone, it’s not just the product that it’s the person. It’s like there’s a person behind the product, which is partly why I wanted to do this show is because I feel like for even you to come on, you’re not just soft, serenity, candles, the brand name, there’s a whole story behind. You’re like, I always consider it the American Idol story where when.

Intro: [00:24:30] You.

Sharon Cline: [00:24:30] When you’re watching some guys come on with his guitar and you’re like, Who’s this guy? Right, or whatever. I don’t like him just immediately. But then you see like his story about his grandpa and it’s like farm and like, all of a sudden, you’re so.

Intro: [00:24:41] Invested that you.

Sharon Cline: [00:24:42] Care, you know, that’s kind of the whole the whole goal goal of the show is to have that feeling of there are so many people and lessons to be learned for everyone who’s in business. You’re all want the same things, right? So do you. Where else do you go? Do you go to farmers markets?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:24:58] Yeah, I do my pop up shows. I organize a big vendor market down in ball ground about once, I guess twice or twice.

Sharon Cline: [00:25:09] What I’m trying to do is it twice a year? Twice a season?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:25:11] Yeah, I guess twice a season. But that for sure, because I am walking around, you know, talking to all the vendors and I’m able to communicate with people that way.

Sharon Cline: [00:25:21] So you get to make relationships, build relationships with other people that are in the same exact spaces.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:25:26] You Yeah. That And then I’m in a lot of local shops here. I have one in downtown Woodstock, then I’m in two in Canton, one in Blue Ridge, and then out of state too. So I’m trying to get around.

Sharon Cline: [00:25:37] Where do you find the stores? Do you how do you do it?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:25:40] A lot of them come to me, surprisingly, they find.

Sharon Cline: [00:25:43] Yeah, it’s amazing.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:25:43] They they find me on social media. They reach out, they want my wholesale packet and I’ll send them my information over.

Sharon Cline: [00:25:49] And so you don’t have to sell yourself to people because I was thinking, do you just go to a store? This is how I would do if, you know, I would be like knocking, please let me sell my gift in your store. But you don’t have to do that.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:26:01] I come to you. When I first started out, I went to Andre’s, which is in downtown Woodstock, and that’s kind of where I grew. I gave them my wholesale information, and from there people were going in, buying my candles. And I guess the other local shops saw like, okay, well, her candles are selling.

Sharon Cline: [00:26:19] Well, let me get down on this.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:26:20] Yeah.

Sharon Cline: [00:26:21] So it must be so satisfying to know that something that you kind of came up with on your own, you know, now is an actual product out there affecting people’s lives. I mean, it’s so cool.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:26:30] It is really cool and it’s crazy. Like, I can’t believe where it has, you know, as far as it’s come.

Sharon Cline: [00:26:36] And your soaps and you have something else you.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:26:38] Said the room sprays.

Sharon Cline: [00:26:39] Sprays. Tell me about the.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:26:41] Those are room sprays that can be used on linens and they’re also disinfectant.

Sharon Cline: [00:26:46] So what that’s amazing in the post COVID or still COVID times.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:26:51] Yeah. And they smell good. It’s not the bleach smell that.

Sharon Cline: [00:26:54] That’s a good point or Lysol or whatever it is. Right. So you can spray it on a surface and it’s disinfectant. How did you come up with this formula?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:27:03] And you and my my helper.

Intro: [00:27:05] Yeah, that’s.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:27:06] Awesome. Someone that helped me out for sure with that one because they would not be a thing if he didn’t.

Sharon Cline: [00:27:10] Do you have to get this these like EPA approved something, anything like that. How does that work? Did you have to. Just a little bit.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:27:16] Yeah. Got you. Yeah. The alcohol had to be, you know, a certain percentage and then the oils and everything had to be.

Sharon Cline: [00:27:24] You’ve got your three products. Yep. Do you have any more you would like to come up with or good with the three. Oh you really you’ve got some.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:27:30] I would really like to start bringing in like more home goods into the storefront. I would like to do that before Christmas. So it’s all like a one stop shop, right? It’s still kind of in the works.

Sharon Cline: [00:27:41] So do you consider a physical store or is it not necessary in life?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:27:44] I would love to have a physical store just to keep home and work separate because right now everything’s at the house.

Sharon Cline: [00:27:50] Sure. Oh, that’s such a good point.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:27:52] Yeah. So it’d be nice to have somewhere else to move to. And that’s what I was saying earlier. Like, I would like to, you know, grow more and be somewhere else because right now I’m kind of at a standstill because I can only produce so much right now being at the house.

Sharon Cline: [00:28:07] It’s such a good point, but it’s such like it’s so interesting because I always think of problems as being problems, but they’re great problems. They’re like something to be happy about, but there’s still a problem to solve. Yeah. So when you go to your vendors and you’re chatting with all the other people that are kind of doing their same businesses or whatever business they do, they give you advice to like to kind of grab on to some of their words of wisdom.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:28:30] We bounce off of each other a lot, which is great because there’s such a good small business community right here. A lot of my friends and small businesses and we just we help each other with content ideas and marketing ideas all all the things.

Sharon Cline: [00:28:44] Well, if someone out there is listening and wants to start their own businesses, they’re like something we could tell. You could tell them.

Intro: [00:28:50] Not me.

Sharon Cline: [00:28:51] No, that’s why you’re here. What would you be able to. What kind of advice could you give them?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:28:56] I would say just go for it. Like that’s what I have two really good friends that were doing their small business before I did, and they were constantly telling me like, Just do it, just do it because you don’t know where you’re going to go. And that’s kind of where I’m at now. Like, this is crazy, like where I’m at. Like, I can basically almost quit my full time job to work.

Sharon Cline: [00:29:13] To do something you love.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:29:15] Right? Yeah. It’s my passion. It’s not really working. I mean, yes, it’s work, but I don’t feel like I’m working. That’s awesome.

Sharon Cline: [00:29:23] It’s kind of the American dream. It is. I’m getting that girl.

Intro: [00:29:26] I mean, I’m excited.

Sharon Cline: [00:29:27] It’s exciting and inspiring to see someone who is brave enough because a lot of people have ideas and they don’t really think, well, it’s too much or it’s overwhelming. Yeah. Like, really, a lot of the Internet has been a big resource for you, even just with logos or LLC or all of those things. I mean, it’s kind of great, you know?

Cristiana Dudash: [00:29:46] It is, yeah. Without social media, like I want to have found my team. I say team, I have my photographer that I found through social media, the girl that does all my graphics, she did my logos, my branding, everything through Instagram and then my ambassadors, like, they’re my coworkers too. Like, I need them. And it’s all through social media. It’s.

Sharon Cline: [00:30:06] It’s the way it is.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:30:07] Yeah.

Sharon Cline: [00:30:08] Oh, I’m so excited for you. Well, can you please tell me where people can find your information if they’d like to look you up? Not cyber stock. Just look up.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:30:16] So I’m on Instagram at Serenity Candle Co and then my website is Soft Serenity Candles dot com and then Tik Tok is also Soft Serenity Candle Co and then Facebook Street Candle Company. So and Pinterest.

Intro: [00:30:30] And Snapchat and.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:30:32] All the social.

Intro: [00:30:33] Media.

Sharon Cline: [00:30:33] But that is a full time job in itself. Just talking about it.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:30:36] Really is.

Sharon Cline: [00:30:36] All the different angles. Do you have them all linked together? So like if you do Facebook, it’ll show up on.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:30:41] Instagram and Facebook are linked and then my website is linked through Instagram and then Tiktok’s kind of on its own.

Sharon Cline: [00:30:47] Well, I’m so excited to see where you go. And I just can tell you from personal experience that the candles are wonderful and they just make, especially for me in fall, they just make my house seem so nice.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:30:57] It’s so cozy.

Intro: [00:30:58] Yeah.

Sharon Cline: [00:31:01] Well, I really want to thank you for coming on the show. And again, this is Sharon Klein, and you’ve been listening to Fearless Formula. And this is to remind you that with knowledge and understanding, we can all have our own fearless formula. Thanks so much.

Cristiana Dudash: [00:31:14] Thank you for having me.

Sharon Cline: [00:31:15] Sharon five.

 

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BRX Pro Tip: Do You Know Your Ideal Client?

August 31, 2022 by angishields

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Stone Payton: [00:00:00] And we are back with Business RadioX Pro Tips. Stone Payton and Lee Kantor here with you. Lee, the question of the day, do you know your ideal client?

Lee Kantor: [00:00:11] Right. We said this over and over again, niches bring riches. You have to have clarity when it comes to your ideal client. And when you are starting out, it’s important to identify and serve the people you have the best chance of delivering unbelievable success to.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:30] So, especially when you’re starting out, you’ve got to know, okay, I am great at over delivering value to this type of person and the clearer I can get on what that ideal client looks like, then that’ll help me kind of build that reputation in the industry that I am great at serving this type of client. I will, over time, have a deeper and deeper knowledge of the industry and I will become that go-to service provider for that niche.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:03] So, the clearer you can get and the more precise you can get when it comes to identifying and serving these people and delivering that unbelievable service to, in order for them to get that unbelievable success, then you are going to win over time. But remember you have to over-deliver value to your ideal client that will help you get more clients that look like that client. And you get that kind of deeper understanding, you become the more expert, you become the go-to person. And then at that point, you will have eliminated all your competition because you are the go-to resource for that niche.

Brian Pruett with B’s Charitable Pursuits, Cristina Patten with Aces Youth Home and Chad Blake with Angel Auctions and Experiences Foundation

August 30, 2022 by angishields

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Date – Friday, September 16th
Location – Fairways of Canton, 400 Laurel Canyon Pkwy, Canton, GA 30114

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B’s Charitable Pursuits and Resources is a Christian husband-and-wife team who want to help charities raise money for their organizations, but at the same time get the community involved to raise awareness for the different charities in the area and have fun in the process.

Brian-Pruett-headshotBrian Pruett holds two degrees from Kennesaw State University: Communications and Sports Management and a Master’s in Business from St Leo University. Brian has 28 years of experience in sales, marketing, and fundraising.

He has served as a sports reporter, a sports information director, and a director of sales for a sports marketing/media company. Brian has organized many fundraising events, sports promotions and sponsorships for organizations such as Nobis Works, Atlanta Spirit, Bowlero – formerly US Play, The Ovarian Cancer Society, Lance Corporal Skip Wells Scholarship Fund, Kennesaw State University, Marietta Adventist Church, CLStrong Foundation, Tranquility House and more!

Brian also has an extensive background in sports and trivia. He has a passion for helping others and running events where not only the participants have fun but brings awareness about the client to the public. Brian believes that the most important thing is to build and establish relationships, teamwork and communication.

Connect with Brian on LinkedIn.

The Mission of ACES Youth Home is to provide temporary and long-term residential placement and care for youths, both boys and girls, ages 12-18.  We provide a safe, secure, and nurturing home for youths who have been victims of abuse or neglect. ACES-Youth-Home-logo

We help children discover their strengths and learn to cope with the crises in their lives.  We strive to recognize the value and dignity of each individual we serve.

Cristina-Patten-headshotbwCristina Patten is the Director of Business Development at ACES Youth Home. She is a focused leader and advocate with a record of success cultivating strong relationships with key decision makers and an attention to detail. Ability to leverage a diverse background and adapt to changes in any environment.

Strong social foundation and excellent communication skills combined with creative innovation of sales/marketing and human resources. Lead and influenced peers and direct reports to support overall business goals. Worked with diverse and cross function teams to achieve operation excellence for maximum productivity.

Connect with Cristina on LinkedIn.

Angel Auctions was founded to help Non-Profit and Charity Organizations raise funds and awareness in their communities. We started by specializing in Sports Memorabilia, but offer a wide variety of Framed Prints, Jewelry, and other items for your next auction.

We make it our goal to help your next fundraiser look bigger and better, while raising needed donations that otherwise might not occur. And the best part is we are 100% FREE to your organization! We work with any: Non-Profits, Charities, Schools, Government Programs, Churches, and any and all Community Organizations.

Chad-Blake-headshotChad Blake started Angel Auctions and Experiences Foundation because he has a passion to help others. Plus, he gets to incorporate his passion for sports and memorabilia, while giving back to his community.

Chad holds a BA in Management with an emphasis in Entrepreneurship/Small Business from Georgia Southern University. Although he continued to do a lot of charity work in college, his middle and high school years are where his charity and non-profit work truly started.

Chad started by working with many different charities, such as: Fellowship of Christian Athletes (FCA), Special Olympics Atlanta, Retirement and Assisted Living Facilities, and his local church. He understood the importance of fundraising and immediately took charge to raise funds and equipment for his football, volleyball, and baseball teams.

Using his contacts and ideas from his many years of experience in: Management, Real Estate, Insurance, and Charity Work helped form what Angel Auctions is today.

Connect with Chad on LinkedIn.

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TRANSCRIPT

Intro: [00:00:07] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Woodstock, Georgia. It’s time for Cherokee Business Radio. Now, here’s your host.

Stone Payton: [00:00:24] Welcome to another exciting and informative edition of Cherokee Business Radio Stone Payton here with you this morning. What a fantastic set of conversations this is going to be. Please join me in welcoming back to the Business RadioX microphone with B’s charitable pursuits. Mr. Brian Pruitt. How are you, man?

Brian Pruett: [00:00:45] I’m doing good. Thanks for having me back.

Stone Payton: [00:00:47] Yeah, delighted to have you. So get us caught up. What’s going on over there with your outfit? Have you accomplished anything since I talked to you last?

Brian Pruett: [00:00:55] Well, you know, last time I was here, I was with Lake City branding, so we actually shut that down and I started being charitable pursuits, doing fundraising events. I’m very passionate about helping people and having fun. So what better way to do that than putting on some fundraising events and getting the community together? So that’s what I’m doing.

Stone Payton: [00:01:11] Fun stuff. So what’s coming up soon?

Brian Pruett: [00:01:13] So funny you should ask. September 16th we’ve got the first inaugural Aces and Experiences Foundation Golf Tournament at Fairways of Canada.

Stone Payton: [00:01:22] Mm hmm.

Brian Pruett: [00:01:23] So it’s two great organizations, and we’ll be talking to both of them here in just a little bit.

Stone Payton: [00:01:28] So timing, is it too late to get involved by a sponsorship?

Brian Pruett: [00:01:32] Not at all. We’ve got some sponsorships available for hole sponsors. We do need it pretty quick, though, because we’ve got to get the science printed and that’s deadline is next Friday for that. But we also have some openings for golfers. And if people want to donate just some items for the raffle or silent auction or just donate cash in general, you can do that as well.

Stone Payton: [00:01:49] So I know you’re having a good time with this. What are you enjoying the most, man? What’s the most rewarding about doing what you guys do?

Brian Pruett: [00:01:56] Just seeing the the look on the faces of folks when we’re able to hand them either however little or as big as much money as we can. And just, you know, they’re not expecting really much of anything, but just being able to help them and see the reaction.

Stone Payton: [00:02:09] Yeah, I’ll bet. And you brought a couple of folks with you. I did. From from your world team up for who did you bring with you this morning?

Brian Pruett: [00:02:16] So first I’ve got Christina Patton, who was the Aces Youth Home and she’ll tell you all about them. But she’s a friend of mine as well. And then also Chad Blake with Experience Foundation, another good friend of mine. He can explain what they do, but they both very good organizations and they work a lot with youth in the area. But yeah, so two great organizations.

Stone Payton: [00:02:37] Fantastic. And I would be remiss if I didn’t mention today’s episode is brought to you in part by the Main Street Warriors program. For more information, go to Main Street Warriors dot org. All right, let’s get this thing going. Please join me in welcoming to the show with Aces Youth Home. Miss Cristina Patton. How are you doing this morning?

Cristina Patten: [00:02:57] Hey, good. How are.

Stone Payton: [00:02:57] You? I am doing well. Okay, let’s start with mission purpose. How would you articulate what you’re out there trying to do for folks?

Cristina Patten: [00:03:05] Yeah. So Aces Youth Home is a place that provides care and shelter for kids and foster care. So any kids that are around, like 11 to 17 that have been taken into care, we provide we provide help and placement for those kids while the parents are trying to work a case plan. So, yeah, we also what we do most and I feel like something special about us is we have a home that allows the boys and girls to be in the same home. So the reason that’s really important is when these children are removed from homes, they’re sometimes removed from all their siblings too. A lot of places are boys only or girls only, and our purpose is to try to keep those families, the siblings together. A lot of times there’s difficulties and troubles with like transportation. So with us we just keep them together and it helps them flourish. It helps them in so many different ways, just kind of maintaining that family feel so yeah.

Stone Payton: [00:04:18] So there’s been a trend on Instagram lately that has me inspired and it’s either I don’t know if they do it audio or written, but it’s what do you wish people understood about blah blah blah? What do you wish more people understood about your arena, about the foster care system and that kind of thing?

Cristina Patten: [00:04:37] Oh, my gosh.

Stone Payton: [00:04:39] There’s it’s just going to be the Christmas show. She looked at her watch when I asked her that. So sorry, Chad. You have to come back another time. That’s all right.

Cristina Patten: [00:04:45] Yeah, it’s it’s a lot. It really is a lot. I wish that, you know, everybody understood kind of the the ugly process of, you know, removals and all the difficulties that the children are going through. Because what we do is actually, even though it seems kind of grimy and still not so pretty, it really is like the other side of the rainbow. Like once these kids get into the group home, they’re in a safe place. So you immediately start to see them flourish. We provide medical help, therapeutic will help, lots of educational help. And we’re located up in Jasper. So we have like a small town group feel that, you know, all these people come together through the community and they help so much with our kids that it’s it’s really awesome to see them grow.

Stone Payton: [00:05:44] Oh, so what’s your back story? How did you get involved in this kind of work?

Cristina Patten: [00:05:49] I started working in foster care in 2013 with Cherokee County artifacts. I went to volunteer and. It was so crazy. I just wanted to volunteer. That’s all I wanted to do. I just didn’t leave. I was like, I can’t. I can’t leave. Like, I grew up in Cherokee County and some of the cases that I was seeing, I was just. I felt like I grew up in a bubble. Yeah, there’s so many things going on that I. I felt like I couldn’t step away. I was so my heart was so passionate about just helping and working with kids. And as soon as I had, like a few cases that I got on that I worked with, I was like, okay, sign me up. I’m, I’m going to do this. But my background is psychology. I went to Valdosta State for major in psychology and a minor in religious studies. And then I went and got my international business degree, my MBA and London. So everybody was like, Why aren’t you using that? The cool thing about ACS was after I worked at Goshen, after I worked at Defects, I worked for another nonprofit called Goshen Valley Boys Ranch. Yeah, I was a case manager there. And then I was given the opportunity to kind of from aces be able to go over and help kind of restructure a program. So I was using not only my case management skills at that point. I was also using, you know, my MBA.

Stone Payton: [00:07:28] So so tell us a little bit like the day the day in the life of Cristina, like what will you do on a monday and a Tuesday? What are you. What’s your activity?

Cristina Patten: [00:07:41] Well, you just have to be very.

Stone Payton: [00:07:44] Flexible.

Cristina Patten: [00:07:45] Because you never know. You really never know. I mean, there could be there could anything could happen. So I don’t do the case management side of it anymore. I do more so fundraising and marketing. But yeah, as a case manager, you just have to kind of be up and ready for anything on a monday or Tuesday.

Stone Payton: [00:08:06] All right. So let’s talk about marketing, fundraising. Tell us a little bit about that world. Where does the money come from? How do you go get it? And we’ll also want to know how we can help.

Cristina Patten: [00:08:16] We are funded 50% from the state. So the kids that we care for, we have that. And then the other 50% we have to raise. So we do fundraising events. We have. We have we have one or two and then we have lots of donations. So we’re kind of trying to get our name out there and do more fundraising. This will be our first annual event for the golf tournament in September. We’re really excited about it and so excited to be working with experienced foundations. We’ve had them in the past work with the kids and they came in for what was it, Cinco de Mayo came in for Cinco de Mayo, and the kids were like, Don’t leave, have so much fun. Ended up playing basketball all night with them. And then Chad was like, I love these kids. How can how can we have another event together? So then he took them to the baseball game. The kids just absolutely love it. They love having a good, solid mentor figure to look up to and somebody who just wants to spend time with them. So it’s been fantastic. And then we’ve decided to kind of partner up and start doing fundraisers together. So we’ve done a few in the past, and then this will be our first one for the golf tournament.

Stone Payton: [00:09:35] Oh, fun. So we’ll get Ted’s take on this in a minute, too. But speak more to this idea of collaboration. I had a similar conversation as recently as this morning. Someone else who has a media property does podcasting, does video interviewing. And he and I, we are exploring all kinds of different ways that we can go to market together. And we just we feel like there’s plenty of opportunity out there. And together we each have strengths. We each have resources. Yes. And it sounds like you and Chad are of the same of the same mind.

Cristina Patten: [00:10:03] You’ve definitely.

Stone Payton: [00:10:05] Yeah. So tell us more about what was the catalyst for the collaboration and what you’ve what you’ve learned from working together like that?

Cristina Patten: [00:10:11] Oh, I mean, from the get go, I think we’re both very life minded. And the fact that, you know, we’re doing this for the kids, this isn’t a competition. You know, our business, our organization is all about the kids we’re not worried about, really. I mean, there I just have to say, there’s no competition like we we work better as a team and we work stronger together. So him and I are able to use the people that he’s worked with in the past, the people that I’ve worked with in the past, and kind of collaborate all that together. And it’s it’s awesome to see it come together because everything’s bigger, everything’s better, everything’s stronger. I don’t know really much about golf, so me putting it together might look more like a fashion show then.

Stone Payton: [00:11:06] That’s okay. Chad may not know a whole heck of a lot about fashion shows.

Cristina Patten: [00:11:08] I don’t know.

Brian Pruett: [00:11:09] I mean, I would not be models for that. So, you know.

Cristina Patten: [00:11:12] Probably could serve a drink. But I don’t know about anything else. I can I can do some pretty signs, but so it’s been really great. He’s got his strengths to this golf tournament, whereas like, you know, I really appreciate that part of it. I didn’t even know. Like, this is embarrassing. I don’t know. Like a foursome. What is this? I don’t know. I’ve never heard that. Like, okay, sure. Well, that’s what you call it. But there’s so many different things that I just I needed to be. I needed to partner with somebody. And so Chad’s experience and background doing this and helping me through it has been awesome as well. And then as far as like sponsors and working with people, I love going out and socializing and you know, on that side of it, I’ve, I feel strong about that too. So us going together to meetings and it’s just been fantastic. We work well.

Stone Payton: [00:12:05] Together. Oh, bet. So have you found that the business community, people who run small businesses and own businesses, is that a place to go and build relationships and get funding and connections?

Cristina Patten: [00:12:18] Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think as much as, you know, they see the need that we have in our small community for, you know, the kids like giving back to an organization like us. You see the effects. I mean, you see these kids are at the ballpark. They’re they’re in people’s homes. They’re your next door neighbor. So it helps everybody as a community. And it goes back to, you know, all the small business owners that, you know, when the kids are walking in, they’re talking about how awesome it is, or they got a free ice cream from somebody the other day or they got a special trip somewhere and they remember those moments and they talk about it. So it’s good for everybody.

Stone Payton: [00:13:03] Oh, bet. So how did Brian and his organization come into your circle?

Cristina Patten: [00:13:08] We met Brian last year or the last golf tournament, and he was super helpful with, you know, just the marketing side of everything. And he’s been been fantastic just to work with, team up, partner with, and now he’s got his for profit organization that helps nonprofits. So yeah, great.

Stone Payton: [00:13:29] I’ll bet. So you’ve done a lot of golf tournaments, Brian, that’s like one of your.

Brian Pruett: [00:13:34] Well, no, not I mean, only really three or four. I did one in college, helped with one in college. And that’s not a strong point of mind. I don’t think I want to I want to be more of the community type fields, but I know enough to be dangerous. So.

Stone Payton: [00:13:51] All right. So the next thing you have coming up that that we ought to let our listeners know about, is this golf tournament, is that the next big event? Yes. All right. So let’s make sure that we leave those leave our listeners with that. And they can get involved. They can still sign up to to play. They can donate in a small business, can sponsor in some way, sponsor a hole or whatever.

Cristina Patten: [00:14:13] Yeah, yeah. There’s whole opportunities. There’s sponsorships, even if you just want to donate a basket, something that we can raffle off, there’s many different ways to give back. I’ve had people even help with advertising. We got a billboard up, so. Fantastic, awesome stuff. Yeah, really good. So if anybody has any questions, they can just reach out or reach out through or, you know, email, aces, Youth Home or Experience Foundation for extra questions. If anybody wants to volunteer, we need all the help.

Stone Payton: [00:14:48] So yeah. So do you guys have a website or is there a LinkedIn profile or anything that you want to make sure that our I want them to be able to connect with you if they want to continue this conversation.

Cristina Patten: [00:14:58] Yeah. Thank you. We have a Facebook page. It’s the first annual golf tournament for Aces and Experiences and then Aces has their website Aces dot org. I’m also on Facebook and I’m connected with the Aces Facebook. So we. Usually get a lot of questions and just.

Speaker4: [00:15:23] Also if you have other experiences with the Nest Foundation dot org, there’s a link on their.

Stone Payton: [00:15:29] Okay.

Speaker4: [00:15:29] To charity today, which is a golf link that Dickson Golf donated to us. So that’s got all the information they can pay for sponsorships, golfers send questions so that maybe one of the easier ways to do it.

Stone Payton: [00:15:44] Yes.

Cristina Patten: [00:15:44] Well, he said.

Stone Payton: [00:15:47] All right, fantastic. So don’t go anywhere. Stay with us. We’re going to visit with Chad a little bit Chad. All right, Chad, tell us a little bit about your organization.

Chad Blake: [00:15:56] Well, before I do it, I do want to say something about aces and kind of how we got started with them. She was right. It was Cinco de Mayo had an absolutely just wonderful time up there. They’ve always had such great kids up there. And it was something that part of our experience is foundation is a Braves Buddies program where we take groups, we’ve done special needs and Power Cherokee, a bunch of different groups, obviously the foster care and brought them to the Braves game. And if I had two or three more bedrooms at the time, we would have adopted the three kids in particular that were brother and sister. Fortunately, in all honesty, they did get adopted, stayed pretty close, so it was awesome. But it was. You just fall in love with these kids when you’re out there. And I mean, one of them came up again. It was, I think, yogurt. We stopped afterwards. He came up and gave me a hug and I was almost in tears. So it’s just, you know, sometimes just that powerful ness of that. And Brian, we’ve besides COVID, we worked we obviously had a little bit of lull there, but our first couple of golf tournaments where a lot of success had some celebrities out there, a lot of athletes. We got that again this year, which I’ll touch on later. But Brian’s always had a passion and he’s always really done something similar to charitable pursuits. And, you know, he’s finally able to do something to passion. And obviously what happened with the COVID kind of hurt some of his other stuff, but he’s always had a passion for that giving back. And whether it’s through the magazine or himself, you know, his family. Same thing with Christina. I’ve known her for quite a few years. And just, you know, our friends and family have gotten close and everything. And it just it really is kind of like a family organization. So.

Stone Payton: [00:17:42] Yeah. So tell us about experiences.

Chad Blake: [00:17:45] We are what I like to call kind of like Mini Make-A-Wish meets Big Brothers, Big Sisters. And now obviously we don’t have the deep pockets that Make-A-Wish does and they do an awesome job. I don’t want to ever take anything away. I will say they have maybe more extreme cases than we do, but my goal was always to maybe somebody just going through a rough time. Maybe, you know, we find out a kid’s lost a parent or a divorce. We’ve had young people going through cancer treatments, brought them out to Braves game, done some fun things, movies, whatever, just something that experience to take their mind kind of off all the bad stuff that’s potentially going on in their lives. But I also love the volunteer aspect. You know, I do love to get out there. Sometimes I probably get more out of it than a lot of people we try and bring in. Our volunteers are trying to instill it in all my kids. You know, it really is about giving back. In fact, my daughter always she sees somebody, you know, potentially somebody on the side of the road asking for money. Well, let’s give them something. What do we have to give? And if I don’t have anything, she, you know, she’s like, oh, well, maybe we come back later. So it’s at least it’s probably at least working their minds with what we’re doing.

Stone Payton: [00:19:01] Yeah.

Chad Blake: [00:19:03] Excuse me. But, you know, it’s just one of those things I, I run a for profit charity auction company called Angel Auctions, and I’ve been doing that now about 20 years. We are our biggest client, so to speak, is the Brady Foundation. We do about 40 events, silent auctions with Gwinnett Stripers, the Rome Braves and a bunch of other nonprofits in between. So we do we do a lot with sports memorabilia and jewelry and relics and all that stuff and never charged the organization. They get a percentage of whatever auctions. And one of the things working with all these organizations, I notice not that they didn’t do a good job with their mission, but I was like, you know, there’s so many opportunities maybe to take a family somewhere or help out. And so we’ve worked a lot of those good relationships and that’s really what kind of spawned experience is foundation. We started officially with the 501c3 in 2018 after a couple of things that happened, primarily my wife’s family with some tragedies and then also a young man that was was battling cancer ended up passing. And it was just everything we were able to do for him and his family just meant so much. And we didn’t really realize the impact till later.

Brian Pruett: [00:20:19] You need to tell him what that was. That was just because it was pretty cool.

Chad Blake: [00:20:21] Yeah, it was. He was a young man, I say young. He was late twenties, I guess, when he was diagnosed. And he ended up huge praise fan from Augusta, a blue collar worker with the job that he was working they think probably gave him cancer. So ultimately he ended up at Emory and there was another charity that was housing him there that we were involved with. And so we took him out. We kind of befriended him and my wife and I and we went out there, took them to Braves game, got him a hat because unfortunately he lost all his hair. So we wore it all the time. Yeah. In fact, we and it was some of the things we take for granted. I remember walking just through the parking lot, not very far into the movie theater later on, too. And he explained to me how he felt like his skin was on fire because everything he was going through, all all the medicines and everything. So it just again, you just don’t realize that stuff. He wasn’t a guy who spoke a whole lot about it. You know, he had a lot of pains and aches and they actually sent him home in remission. And three days later, he collapsed. Unfortunately, they brought him back to Emory. And one of the things my wife and I at the time lived in Smyrna, so we were pretty close to there. His parents were going to drive back because they didn’t have money to stay at a hotel.

Chad Blake: [00:21:37] And my wife said, absolutely not. So she went and checked him. And fortunately, unfortunately, I guess in some manners he passed the next day. Yeah. With his children on top of him. He still had the Braves hat on that we gave him, but fortunately he was there. His parents were able to see him and say their final goodbyes and it was just something, again, talking to the wife later, we still follow the children. They just graduated, which makes me feel super old. But but it’s just, you know, again, that that impact we had was really just a couple of things we did. Sometimes there’s just a matter to sit there and talk. You know, we always kind of joke like we can do Braves games. You know, we’ve done a cool United thing where the young man was the first one ever again. It just happened to be a cancer thing. Brain cancer in remission. He’s doing well. He actually local here in Cherokee, but he was the first non referee to flip the coin on the field so and that was something we were able to hook up with them. We were on the field and yeah, it was just it was an awesome experience. And again, we still stay in touch with the mom. You know, the young man’s doing well. He just graduated.

Stone Payton: [00:22:46] High school too, so.

Chad Blake: [00:22:49] But yeah, and those are just a few of the stories that, you know, stuff we’ve done. But it’s, you know, if anybody wants, you know, to do anything, I mean, I’ll go fishing with them, you know, whatever it is, if that’s a small thing, if they have a passion for, you know, one of the things to we, you know, we’ve done over their experiences, I’m sorry, at ACS, just bring them dinner sometimes. Just sit there and talk with them, see what’s going on, because sometimes they get new kids. And, you know, I wish I could spend a little bit more time. I got three of my own, which keep me quite busy. But, you know, it’s just one of them, you know, it’s the passion, I think, that all three of us and I think that’s where that synergy definitely comes from for all of us to work together and, you know, again, make experience as foundation in this golf tournament. You know, what it’s becoming? We’re almost I’d say we probably got about 30 out of 120 left as far as golfers go. Yeah. So a few foursomes in there. It’s only $400 for the foursome, 125 for an individual. We do have Mark Wohlers coming out closer in the 95 Atlanta Braves. We got Terrance Mathis coming out. Besides Julio and Roddy, he holds all the records and he did till they came. Also have.

Brian Pruett: [00:24:01] Chris Hammond.

Chad Blake: [00:24:02] Chris Hammond, former brave.

Brian Pruett: [00:24:04] We have Chaz Lytle, who is a holds the current record of steals and triples for the UGA Bulldogs as well. He played in the Pittsburgh Pirates organization. And then the next guy nobody’s probably ever going to heard of. The name is Tim Farr. He’s a rodeo guy and you never consider rodeo and golf together. But let me tell you what, he’s a pretty good golfer. I never after being thrown off bulls, you would think that he couldn’t swing the golf club.

Stone Payton: [00:24:27] But he can really and most importantly, Brian Pruitt be there on tour. Right. That’s got to be a draw.

Chad Blake: [00:24:33] Sign for you. Autographs. All right.

Stone Payton: [00:24:35] Well, first of all, yes, the passion, all three of you, it comes through. I can see it in your eyes. I know our listeners can hear it in your in your voice. But one of the things that is coming to light for me in this in this conversation, it doesn’t have to be this great, big, heroic effort just interacting with these folks. So just yeah, I mean, these small things, they’re not small. Right? Right. But having dinner, having a conversation, taking a kid, fishing, you know, just I love to fish. So, you know, that would be a lot of fun to take a kid over to Debris Park or over to Altoona and drown a worm, you know, and just have a good time for an afternoon. Just it might seem little to us, but it’s not little, is it?

Chad Blake: [00:25:18] No, not at all. Yeah, I actually. Last night was. We had some stuff we’re going to donate and a Facebook friend, which I don’t know where that will. We just have a lot of mutual friends. She’s a little bit younger than me. She just moved into a brand new house and I said, Hey, I got some pots and pans and some other stuff. We’re getting ready to donate. Do you need anything? And she’s like, Yeah, you know, I could use this and this. And she wasn’t being selfish by any means. You know, again, I was the one who offered it and she said, Can I ask you a question? I said, Of course. She goes, Why would you help somebody that you don’t know? And I just I said, You know, it’s just something I love to do. I think, you know, if you have that ability to help somebody, you know, our mission is kind of to make a wish. But I always say to if we can help somebody, we have the money for it, we will. I mean, we do a Santa for seniors where we bring stockings and different things. We do donate and casa and all that stuff. It’s, you know, sometimes it’s more about getting stuff. And I’ll say this about Aces, their partners, especially up there in Jasper, when you see maybe a kid didn’t really get anything at Christmas or nothing at all to see what they get and they get everything on their wish lists usually. Yeah. Just is unbelievable. So it’s that joy sometimes just giving.

Stone Payton: [00:26:35] Them.

Cristina Patten: [00:26:35] We sometimes go a little overboard. But I mean, we’ve had kids come in. It’s like, you know, I never had a Christmas tree. So we’re putting up the Christmas tree and you’re just like, wow.

Brian Pruett: [00:26:46] Chad’s even taking some of this, though, out of the country, right? Twice.

Chad Blake: [00:26:50] Well, actually, four times we every time now I’m very fortunate, blessed. I’m going to be the first say that that my wife Cheryl has done awesome brownie points and is one of the top sales people with one digital insurance. And they’re actually our major sponsor here. So and always get great support with the Brooklyn family more brownie points and but she she’s always one of the top salespeople. And we go on different trips that she’s won through her company and earned. And we’ve gone to Mexico. We went one time and we’re in Dominican cap, kind of we’re able to actually get with the school and give away a bunch of learning supplies, a lot of baseball stuff, try to make sure that and it was just the coolest experience to see the kids come up. Appreciate it. Take pictures, just sometimes taking the pictures, especially with the teenagers, you know, five classes is all in Cap Khana from kindergarten to high school. 12th grade is what they had. So to see them all come out, it was just unbelievable. And they were so appreciative. And again, I’m sure I got more out of her. We got more out of it than anybody. But, you know, it’s just and again, anything I can do, I always get yelled at because they don’t want me going off site. But I always say, if that’s my end, that’s a good way to go and I’ll be okay.

Stone Payton: [00:28:15] Another thing that I just have to believe happens, particularly when you’re working with youth, but probably with other adults, is this ongoing legacy, right? So a kid comes through aces or they have these experiences and you’ve modeled for them this behavior. And I bet you’ve started to see some of those folks turn around and act in the same way and help others.

Cristina Patten: [00:28:41] Yeah, right. Yeah, we have I’ve had a few kids that have actually left aces and then reach back out and say, Can I help you guys volunteer? So that’s pretty cool.

Chad Blake: [00:28:49] I’ve had a couple of donations from the Aces. Kids do that. Have you really? Yeah. Once they aged out. Right. So, I mean, they, you know, they still want to be involved in to do things. And that’s again, that’s I think what she does, Christina does and then her whole team up there to just awesome any time I ever have a question or anything if we can do anything, we definitely try and help too.

Stone Payton: [00:29:10] So I got to ask about the auction business because to me, it’s just fascinating. You know, we love Holly and I going to the you know, to the galas for different fundraising events and and to watch the there’s the silent auction. We enjoy that. And we always spend more than we plan to. And we’re fine with it because it does feel good. We know it’s for a good cause and we’re very blessed and I love watching the live auction stuff. To How long have you been doing the auction thing?

Chad Blake: [00:29:36] Man I’ve been doing it 20 years of my my my first time doing an auction was with the Rome Braves at their hot stove. And it’s just that’s just turned into a great relationship. And I’ve seen so many gems come and go and different people. So but it’s been a lot of fun. I mean, I have my own little I call it my Romi family out there. So every time I get out them, I get hugs. It’ll get all the time. It’s like seeing, you know, family and friends come through because I’ve been out there for so long, I’ve seen the kids grow, too. But yeah, I just it’s something I had a passion for. I’m actually from real estate construction. Still hold my license, but you know the rest of it. After the second turn, I just kind of saw the writing on the door. I was like, I. Know, something a little bit more stable. And I was actually asked we were doing some work by one of the Falcons at the time. His wife asked if she goes, I know you love sports. Do you have anything to maybe help us with the auction? I said, yeah, I could probably do some stuff. And then I started looking and there were some memorabilia dealers who just kind of weird and almost shady the way they did. It wasn’t about fundraising. And I said, You know what? There’s something here, and I’ve changed it up kind of the way I do it.

Chad Blake: [00:30:47] But but again, we’ve raised I just wrote to the Braves Foundation, one check from a weekend was almost $5,000. So in any time I like doing those because that means, again, it’s enough to take care of me and my family, you know, as well as to give back to the community. People love it. You know, I see adults go crazy with, oh my gosh, this is my favorite player. And I hear all these stories and it’s that part is always fun, you know, especially in the galas and stuff. That’s definitely our sweet spot because everybody, you know, they focus on it. Yeah. You know, besides maybe the dinner or whatever the case is, do a little bit of live. I do not speak 100 miles an hour, but, you know, other than that, you know, we just we just help however we can. And it’s something again, I mean, sports memorabilia, relics, whether it’s fossils, civil war bullets, that type stuff, just always joke. It’s stuff you can’t find just walking into Mart, you know? And it’s a lot of unique stuff. People buy Christmas presents for their kids. Yeah, obviously with the Atlanta Braves and Georgia Bulldogs doing so well, that stuff goes crazy. We got replica rings, we do large canvases, just something for everybody. So it’s it’s been a lot of fun, especially this past year with with all the success of our local teams.

Stone Payton: [00:32:05] So and you’ve done it long enough. Now you’ve got the machinery in place, right? You’ve got the methodology, the discipline, the process. So if ABC non profit calls or whatever says, Hey, we want to raise some money, they reach out to you, you well, walk us through that process. What does that what does that look like? If they want to set something up and they want to start working with you? Yeah.

Chad Blake: [00:32:26] Yeah. I mean, I’m very, very simple. I’m very old school minded with kind of a handshake. I always get asked about contracts. To me, it’s not worth it. Yeah, because I stay so busy that honestly, I turn down sometimes more than I can take on. I do have a couple of people that help me out, you know, and I really appreciate that when they can do it. But, you know, it’s one of those things. It’s definitely my baby and I know how to do it. I mean, when I’m at going at a room, I mean, I’m walking on, you know, concrete for four straight hours, this back and forth, asking people they need help. Right. So, you know, it’s not necessary for everybody to do that kind of stuff. But I love it. You know, it’s the first thing, you know, I do. I introduce myself, talk to people the whole time. But, you know, somebody wants to get involved with an auction. All you to do is give me a call, tell me the date. We’ll check it out again. I’ll bring out all the items. And if they do have anything that they want to add to it, always 100% free. My goal is to really take that aspect of it off. So, you know, and they’ll get 100% of that, you know, it just adds to it. So and personally, we, you know, besides like the golf tournament and stuff for our nonprofits, I stay away from gift certificates stays somewhere because I always say they and I always try and help the nonprofits if they’re, you know, kind of ways to make extra money and really, you know, talk to that. That’s more about who, you know. You know, if you got a restaurant a bunch of times just asking for a gift card, you’re helping them out. Let them help you out. Right. And, you know, it’s again, it’s fundraising. I don’t have an online store. I don’t do anything like that. I’ll help people maybe with gifts occasionally. But, you know, it’s you know, it’s something if you saw my garage and basement. Oh, yeah.

Stone Payton: [00:34:08] So but it’s it’s zero risk, right? I mean, first of all, you know what you’re doing, but it’s also you’re going to bring all this stuff, we’re going to get our cause is going to get a percentage of what you do. And if I’ve got a cousin with a condo in Savannah, that’s we can put that out on the table too. And we keep all that.

Chad Blake: [00:34:25] Yep. Love it. Yeah. And it’s, you know, again, no setup fee, nothing. The only thing I ask for is tables and tablecloths and people, and I’ll literally do the rest. So we even take payments. We clean up at the end. Well, you’ll get a spreadsheet seeing exactly what went, how much, and we write a check within a couple of days. And I always love writing that check because that means, you know, we did well out there for everybody.

Stone Payton: [00:34:48] Sure.

Chad Blake: [00:34:49] You know, and it’s I mean, it’s a nice write offs at the end. I’m not going to lie.

Stone Payton: [00:34:52] But yeah, well, maybe you can coach people through that process a little bit too, or put them in touch with someone that has that experience and expertise. Because a lot of us, while we might have a heart for this kind of thing, we don’t know this world. The Business RadioX Main Street Warriors program. It’s it’s a relatively new thing. And we you know, we’re just kind of we’ve got a good heart and we’ve got some marvelous resources available to us to kind of make it work. But there’s just so much we don’t know. Right. And so that is fantastic. All right, let’s make sure that our listeners can reach out and connect with you on the experiences and or the the auction work, whatever you think is appropriate email, phone, website, that kind of stuff.

Chad Blake: [00:35:32] Yeah, definitely. First angel auctions, if you just go to WW dot my angel auctions dot com. That just showed my age because you probably don’t need the WW. It’s a world wide web for all you kids.

Stone Payton: [00:35:45] And Christina is on Tik Tok. No, no.

Cristina Patten: [00:35:49] Okay. I might have it on my phone.

Stone Payton: [00:35:51] I don’t actively post anything.

Chad Blake: [00:35:55] I’m still on Facebook. I’m the old man. That’s what my kids tell me.

Brian Pruett: [00:35:57] I’m still on MySpace we’re talking about.

Chad Blake: [00:36:00] But you got good music on there. But you know also. And then experiences. Foundation dot org. You know you can again check out the golf tournament, see a bunch of our work on there. They are just informational pages. So you’ll see a lot of different events. I mean, we work at Georgia, Georgia Tech, Braves, all sorts of different nonprofits. You can see them on there. I think to count it’s over 300 at this point that we’ve helped over than 20 years. Yeah. Do some kind of event charity auction something to those extents and. Yeah. I’m just. I don’t know, I’m so excited about, like, what we’ve accomplished. And I had the pro reach out to me today and said, Where are you at? And I told him and I think he was shocked because he’s like, Well, okay, y’all really are heading toward your goal. And when you have three like minded people, you know, you know, you’re going to hit that. And we’re we’ve been blessed. We’ve gotten a lot of the higher end. I do want to add this to a lot of the higher end sponsors are taken. We’ll still take more money if we need to and we’ll take care of you however we need to. We’ll be doing shout outs the whole time. We do have, I would say probably I think last count was about eight whole sponsors left. All of us are really big on networking, giving back. You can come out, set up at a whole hand out swag, talk to the golfers. You’re going to have at least probably 150 people total out there. Put stuff in our swag bags. You’re going to get a yard sign lunch for two and it’s only $150. Holy cow. So it’s a great way to get your business name out there, talk to a lot of people and meet some celebrities.

Brian Pruett: [00:37:40] Me, you get to meet me.

Stone Payton: [00:37:41] Get to meet Brian. Yeah.

Chad Blake: [00:37:44] We’re. We’re trying to get people out there. Oh, sorry. But it’s yeah, I mean, honestly, it’s, you know, it’s sometimes and we just did our cornhole tournament. And one of the things I’ll say real quick, we’re talking to one of the young men that was actually playing in it. And they were one of the, I think, top Final Four. The young man came up to me and he was he was talking to me. He actually came through foster care himself. So it was just the matter, you know? I mean, sometimes you just touch on people. And he was just so ecstatic. And, you know, he was gave me his information. He’s like, if I do anything. So, you know, a lot of people do appreciate it and pay it forward, you know, in every aspect they can to.

Stone Payton: [00:38:20] So, yeah. Brian, it just must be a delight working with these folks.

Brian Pruett: [00:38:26] Oh, yeah. Well, especially since Chad and I have known each other, what, 2000 and 2009, something like that. So it’s a long time. But you know, when you. Yeah. When you said when you get three like minded people that just have that passion to give them back and working together in community, I mean, this world is so much negative right now. Let’s get all the positive we can. Yeah, that’s another reason I’m doing charitable pursuits.

Stone Payton: [00:38:46] Yeah. All right, so I want to make sure we leave our listeners with contact coordinates for charitable pursuits as well. What’s the best way for them to reach.

Brian Pruett: [00:38:52] Out to you? All right. So yeah, so the the website is on the W WW. It’s BS like the bumblebee. The Web doesn’t like the apostrophe, so I couldn’t do B apostrophe. So it’s BS. So B’s charitable pursuits dot com that’s the best way to get to me.

Stone Payton: [00:39:10] Well, this has been a lot of fun. It’s been informative. It’s been inspiring. Thank you all for coming in and visiting with us this morning. You’re doing such important work and thank you.

Cristina Patten: [00:39:20] Thanks for having.

Stone Payton: [00:39:21] Us. Yeah, we really sincerely appreciate you and Business RadioX in general and the Main Street Warriors program. We’re going to see if we can’t find some ways to work and play together and and tap into to some folks like you that know what you’re doing. Awesome.

Chad Blake: [00:39:37] Thank you. Thank you. Till you make it. I mean.

Stone Payton: [00:39:38] Yes, absolutely. All right. This is Stone Payton for our guest today and everyone here at the Business RadioX family saying we’ll see you next time on Cherokee Business Radio.

 

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